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Old 22nd September 2003, 05:11 AM
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hi memebers
Please share your practical experience in treating fever in child one of the most difficult situation .I face with my daughter
please practical experince inculde cases practically treated without the help of antibiotic and paracetmol.
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Old 22nd September 2003, 05:15 AM
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For some of us here, this would involve discussing a lot of cases!

I frequently treat children with fevers, this being a very common manifestation of their illnesses. There has never been a need for either painkillers or antibiotics.

What sort of information specifically were you looking for?
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Old 22nd September 2003, 05:55 AM
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thank you sir
i need name of some remdies with there indication dose potency freqency of repeatation
i have tried bell , ars , rhus tox in about 10 to 12 pt without much results
i know therotically there are lots of remedies but like some preactical hits like berberis 200 most of time give relife form pain due to kidney stone 2 doses to 4 doses in a day
this remedy i found 80% useful
i donot need some thing like specific but i need
firm a solide drug names with potency and freqency of doses repeatation
sorry if i have hurt by any means
all juniors and seniors are well come with practical exp not therotical or bookish knoweldge
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Fevers are the most interesting conditions to treat. Most often the patients I've treated have required 30 or a 200 potency. And only repeated if the previous dose has stopped working.
Subsequent doses should be plussed.

The first criteria in a fever is to take all the symptoms in detail. Find out the peculiarities in chill, heat and perspiration with respect to location, sensation and modalities. Then find out the concomittant phyical generals and mentals.
These are generally the deciding factor and are very obvous right from the prodrome of the fever.

The reason for this is not to only find the remedy, but to evaluate the remedy reponse to your first prescription.

IF the generals have improved after giving the remedy, even if the fever persists or the physical particulars are still present, you know you are on the right track.
If they change, then you know that you need to make a seocnd prescription, either because the previous remedy was not accurate or that fever may just require two remedies (individual to the case).

One book that gives good clinical tips is by Dr. Praful Vijaykar. Maybe you could read that.
Hope this helps.
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Commonly indicated remedies: Ars Alb, Ars Iod, Bryonia, HEpar Sulph, Puls, SUlph, Arnica, Rhus Tox, China, Phos, Cham, Podophyllum, Nux Vomica, Apis, Sepia,...
And ok, just about anything...
OFten the "constitutional" is indicated.
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Materia Medica, I can understand your concern about homeopathic remedies. I can visualize your position and point of view after reading your post. Your concern is genuine.

My dear according to your demand. I present my clinical experience. THIS IS FOR YOU ONLY and not for homeopath.

When ever you encounter with fever patient.

In the first instance give three doses of Ferrum Phos 30 after one hour irrespective of the symptoms your patient is facing. This covers up 60 percent cases.

If the temperature does not get down in the next phase give kali mure 30 in the same way as you administered fer phos. THIS PROCEDURE WILL COVER UP 80 to 90 percent cases without taking the symptoms.

Again if the temperature does not get down then use nat sulph 30 three doses after an hour. 100 percent fever cases will be recovered.

This procedure is restricted to patient having upto temperature 102F.

THIS POST WILL ALSO SATISFY dr. T Shannon. Who is interested to listen clinical experiences.
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In my experience, the best resource for the treatment of fevers is in the Boger-Boenninghausen Repertory.
Pathological fever types page 1002, but the next chapters that follow set out the different stages and qualities of symptoms in fever plus the concomitants with chill; concomitants with heat and fever; which are the individualizing rubrics that characterize the case from the more common symptoms.
A good remedy choice should bring the temperature down by one or two degrees. The countenance should become a little more peaceful.
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hi thanks to all
mr mohammed arshad sahab thanks a lot for your pratcial tips
ms leena thanks for your suggestion but in viral fever we do not have chills or perspiration like in my daghters case she had only fever without any concomitant or other sysmtoms even the cold
as per book of dr.praful vijaykar i think its usful only in children above 5 yrs its diffcult to get the axis which he has written other thing are to vague like he havnot inculded arnica in acute when from old books i find arnica is very usful in acute condition
as per if fever persist and genral improve donot worry how long , again in my daughter case she had a fever all most a yr back i have give her bell i found she was sleeping well eatting well everything and suddenly in night arounf 1 she got febrile convulsion
this time also her fever was only symptom without any genral like her app was normal she was playing well everything if you take this thing in to consideration according to mr praful vijaykar sir some remady in no changes will come any way
one remedy i thought was ign can some her elborate on this any one used it any time in fever please donot be in mis impresssion of ign she remedy for only in psyco cases
hello madam ricky your point is not valid we are in medical practice first thing in aml in condition of pt not the theroy only praticals please share your view on fever
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Fever without chills or perspiration is a symptom.
There must be some concomitants!
How frequently does the fever return?
Time aggravations?
Thirsty, or thirstless?
Disturbed sleep?
Headaches?
Coated tongue?
Digestive disturbances?
Constipation, Diarrhoea?
Change of mood when the fever returns?
Nervous, oversensitive, languid, indifferent, excitable, peevish?
A complete lack of reaction is a symptom too!
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Sigh (!)
Mr. Materia Medica,

I understand your dilemma. The next time you get a case of fever, will you email me privately?

We'll find out what is useful and what is not useful. What can be observed and what cannot be - in different agegroups.
What are characteristics and what are not.
This is a learning process of observation, prescription and experience (for ALL of us) but the results are enjoyable.

Thre are NO quick fixes unless you want to practice like my esteemed colleague Arshad. But that is boring.

You can reread my post above just for a gist of how we can put the theory into PRACTICAL application. My offer is open for as long as you like.
Regards,
doctorleela

PS; Leela not Leena.

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