yes, please note that even though melanie was the student of the founder of homoeopathy, because she was a woman, she inevitably became just as competent as he was, almost immediately.

Dear chris, Divina, and the rest

''How many beers?''--Not to be taken seriously. It's just an nice expression we used for: ''How long did it take you to figure that out---?.''

This is Uwe Plate's article, whatever is mine I earmarked IMO.
If I don't comment, it does not translate, that I automatically agree. I could just as well disagree or have no opinion.

And that's exactly what I have, I have chosen to have no opinion on whether this article contains sexist interpretations or not, or whether this is insulting, or whether I am too uncritical or too overcritical.

May everybody hold onto their own opinions as they like, I have lost a few.
take care, Hans

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Dear Hans

If there is no constitutional prescribing then what is footnote of aporhism 213 hinting to. Also aporhisms 210, 211 & 212 refer to "disposition" isn't it the same thing as "constitution".

Would appreciate also if you can explain how & where GV Keller puts emphasis on Kent. I think its the otherway round.

Thanks.

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Well, Hans, just so you know for the future, asking someone "How many beers?" as a response to an observation usually means that the querent wants to imply that the observer is drunk--and not capable of forming a reasonable thought.

Sorry if I got confused with your intended use of the phrase.

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Dear Fittness

The footnote reads in the original:
‘’So wird bei einem gleichfoermigen gelassenen GEMUETHE, der Napell-Sturmhut selten’’

The Boerricke translation reads:
‘’Thus aconite will seldom or never effect a rapid or permanent cure in a patient of a quiet, calm, equitable DISPOSITION;’’

The Webster O' Rielly translation:
''Thus aconite will seldom produce either a rapid or permanent cure if the patient’s EMOTIONAL STATE is quiet and uniformly calm.''

Now, the problem lies in the terminology of the translations.
My best suggestion is to call it MOOD. And the changed of mood in disease is not constitutional.

Reg.: Dr. Keller/Tuebingen
I remember him being instrumental in translating Kent’s repertory into German and lately editing a version according his own guidelines. I don’t have the time currently to go through all the old KH’s, and I believe he also published in the AHZ.

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Hans wrote: The passage of the case interpretation I quoted in a previous post deliberately sows seeds of doubt about the value of Melanie's contributions in the Paris years. It is hardly based on fact. Unless one is prepared to admit that "factual" reporting and reviewing data is always a subjective process. It is a conclusion full of innuendo based entirely on speculation and projection. Much like the propoganda that suggests black people can't really be trusted, or the lower classes are too stupid in themselves to succeed.

The impression you leave is that you are prepared to surreptitiously enjoy the benefits of the doubt cast by innuendo. Just so you know, it's not only Melanie's credibility that is called into question in this manner. In the eyes of a lot of other people, this kind of innuendo in interpretation diminishes the credibility of the author and also those who would promote it without comment.

Getting back to the topic, even with the translation MOOD, if the mood is prevailing for the most of the time, then is it constitution, as it becomes a symptoms in itself e.g. a sensitive, thin, impressionable and ready to cry.

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The changes in mood, disposition or emotional states in disease are entirely constitutionally based.
Do you read Chronic Diseases?
Turn to Page 51, Volume 1.
In a nutshell this means when latent psora becomes active, there will be observable changes - the changes could be entirely new manifestations, or the changes may be heightened intensity of pre-existing complaints. Any such changes are examined in the light of observing the bodily constitution, the innate temperament, as well as lifestyle factors that influence, or, are the result of our belief systems.

This is not to suggest that a person's innate temperament will be changed forever, but any changes in the disposition or state or mood that are observable and deemed "morbid" must be matched to a remedy that is known to produce a mental or emotional state similar to that of the disease. This is why in his description of Pulsatilla in MMP, he wrote:
We therefore don't prescribe on mere "personality traits". Nor do we automatically prescribe pulsatilla because someone suddenly becomes timid and teary. The passage above states when the symptoms of disease comply with the overall present disposition, noting the changes from the normal state, then you have a full constitutional picture on which to prescribe. Many of our remedies have not been proven in this context, noting the innate bodily constitution and temperament of the provers from the beginning. Hering, Knerr and some others are noted for the inclusion of constitutional features in their works. Kent never seems to have fully appreciated what they were doing, he thought Hering was suggesting a Pulsatilla proving would turn you blond and blue-eyed. So my suggestion is to you ff, is be aware of the context of definitions used in homoeopathy, if you understand these contexts then you can appreciate the merits of contributions, rather than become dismissive of people's experiences.

Dear Members

Par.: 212 org.:

A] Boericke

The creator of therapeutic agents has also had particular regard to this main feature of all diseases, the altered state of the disposition and mind, for there is no powerful medical substance in the world which does not very notably alter the state of the disposition and mind in the healthy individual who tests it, and every medicine does so in a different manner.

B] Weitbrecht

To this main component of all diseases—
--the change in mood and mind—
the creator of all remedies paid particular respect,
by the fact, that there is no potent remedy in the world,
which does not alter the mood and mind in the healthy prover,
each remedy in its own peculiar way.

Paragraph: 213

A] Boericke

We shall therefore, never be able to cure conformably to nature
—That is to say, homoeopathically—
If we do not, in every case of disease, even in such as are acute,
Observe, along with the other symptoms, those relating to the changes in the state of the mind and disposition, and if we do not select, for the patients relief, from among the medicines a disease-force which in addition to the similarity of its other symptoms to those of the disease, is also capable of producing a similar state of the disposition and mind.

B] Weitbrecht

One will never cure according natural principals
—therefore homoeopathically—
Unless one observes in every case of disease,
even the acute ones,
simultaneously the symptoms of the altered mood and mind,
And select a remedy,
Which besides similitude of its symptoms to the other symptoms of the desease,
Is able to produce a similar state of mood and mind.

Footnote:
Thus Aconite will seldom or never effect either a rapid or permanent cure in a patient of a quiet, calm, equable disposition; and just as little will nux vomica be serviceable where the disposition is mild and phlegmatic, pulstilla where it is happy, gay and obstinate, or ignatia where it is imperturbable (stubborn) and disposed neither to frightened nor vexed.

Also see footnote 210:

How often, for instance, do we not meet with a mild, soft mood in patients who have for years been afflicted with the most painful diseases,
So that the physician feels constrained to esteem and compassionate the sufferer!
But if he subdue the disease and restore the patient to health—as frequently done in homeopathic practise—he is often astonished and horrified at the frightful alteration in his disposition. He often witnesses the occurrence of ingratitude, cruelty, refined malice, and propensities most disgraceful and degrading to humanity,
Which were precisely the qualities possessed by the patient before he grew ill.
Those who were patient when will often become obstinate, violent, hasty, or even intolerant and capricious, or impatient or desponding when ill;
Those formerly chaste and modest often become lascivious and shameless.
A clearheaded person not infrequently becomes obtuse of intellect, while one ordinarily weak-minded becomes more prudent and thoughtful;
And a man slow to make up his mind sometimes acquires great presence of mind and quickness of resolve, etc.

Is the state of the mood unaltered by disease constitutional?

IMO: No—it depends very much on the progress one makes on the path to awakening, A liberated mind can choose whatever mood it wants, free from set patterns, but this does not concern homeopathy.

Paragraph 9 Org.: relates

In the healthy condition of man, the spirit like vital force [autocracy], the dynamis that animates the material body [ organism], rules with unbounded sway, and retains all parts of the organism in admirable, harmonious, vita operation, as regards both sensations and function, so that the indwelling, reason gifted mind can freely employ the living healthy instrument for the higher purposes of our existence.

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PS.:
Just saw Chris’s post with the quote from the introduction to Pulsatilla.
This was his experience 1833, where as my quote is from the 6th ed. Org. finished in around 1843.
There has been a quite significant shift in the thinking of Hahnemann in many areas based on new experiences.

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