Hello All,

Reading a bit of Andre Saine re lack of symptoms in cancer cases. He mentioned that he either ....well, let me quote him....

"In cases of defective disease, lacking in associated symptoms, two strategies André relies on heavily are looking at clues from the childhood history, and using the symptoms which arise in acute conditions. In some instances he must actually wait for such conditions to develop in order to find the curative remedy. He is encouraged when a cancer patient develops pneumonia, for example, since the characteristics of the untreated pneumonia may lead to the remedy needed to address the cancer. Pneumonia symptoms will call for the same remedy needed for the chronic disease in as many as 50 percent of the patients who contract it. Half of cancer cases are defective at present, although this number is greatly increased by palliative interventions."

http://216.239.33.104/search?q=cache...hl=en&ie=UTF-8

I know from the experience of one friend battling cancer, who developed pneumonia responded marvelously to a small dose of Phos. She was up and at'm for a few days after but couldn't be convinced to see a real homeopath, even after feeling the results of one that one little pellet. Humans aren't very smart, sometimes.

My most important person, kitty named Bert, has a bleeding, cancerous tumor in the area of his left axilla . Would it be the right homeopathic approach to go back to his early dis-ease expressions to try to find a remedy that would be suitable since the only symptoms currently present are those of the cancer itself?

He has had no allopathic treatment, yet, other than a blood transfusion as blood and bone marrow tests showed he isn't producing red blood cells. The vet oncologist has every intention of surgically removing his tumor, if the RBC count can be raised. This thought of surgery scares me horribly but if we submit these animals to those vets, we lose control. I feel the transfusion is not successful as he has not exhibited any increase in energy or vitality after 3 days. I feel he has hemorrhaged more blood than was given in the transfusion.

(Bert has had a couple of comfrey (symphytum) poultices which seemed to benefit him but not able to do now as the tumor is *open*, bleeding/discharging.)

Bert has been on the Ramakrisnan protocol for the past 4+ weeks with no substantial improvement. The vet oncologist blamed the lack of RBC production on the homeopathic remedies. (He was on Carc/Ars Br first 4 weeks and now on Carc/Caust.) Is there any reason to suspect Ars B or Carc for halting RBC production? I've read as much as my traumatized brain/broken heart can absorb and can't find that these remedies are the causation of lack of RBC production. A wonderfully wise homeopath has suggested that this lack of RBC production is the symptom of cancer, not the remedies. At this point, would it be advantageous to go back in his early *childhood history*, of which I have 16 years, to seek a remedy for this current cancer state?

Edit: sorry about the highlights on the web site address posted...it was due to a google search.

[ 29. July 2003, 02:29: Message edited by: gpm ]

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I'm not so sure you need to do anything different than you would in any casetaking: look for the symptoms characteristic to the patient's expression of the disease, not at the typical symptoms of the disease. The remedy you need will cover these typical symptoms but it will also, more importantly cover the symptoms which are characteristic to the patient and not the disease. If you think you'll find information that is useful in the patient's history (something consistent, let's say, for the entire case...goes back a long way and remains throughout the case or has been changed by the interventions alone...) then by all means, use it!

By the way, the vet's knowledge of pathology is limited if he's blaming the remedies for the lack of RBC production.

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Keep going on the plussing for another 4 weeks and see if it improves. Who chose the Rx combination and why?

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Hi GPM,

FYI, your private message mailbox is full.

David,

Thanks for letting me know about that.

Ricky,

Thank you for your advice. I decided on the original remedies but did have some good advice about it. I had forgotten that it took quite a while for the other kitty to show real improvement. Thanks for nudging my memory.

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there is precious little - so what there is has to be made the best of.

at the moment it sounds as though the main problem is the profuse blood loss from the tumour.

so, the main symptom could be selected
[rubrics from the tbr]
1962 ulcers bleeding

then, unfortunately, it is necessary to use clinical rubrics, because of the lack of symptom info.

1900 fungus haematodes
1973 ulcers cancerous

that brings the selection to:

carb-v, nit-ac, phos, sil, sulf

in order to decide between these one might look at the type of stuff coming out of the growth, if other than pure blood e.g. pus, colour, odour, excoriating etc. at what time of day or night the flow is heaviest and any other aggravation factors. is the bleeding from the edge or the centre of the tumour.
any change of appetite or changes in other parts of the body such as teeth, eyes etc.

lack of symptoms is surely the worst challenge,especially for hompath,as he entirely rely upon symptons to reach the remedy.
You can read from organon what to do when symptoms are lacking or incomplete.Even now the best method is what Hahnemann told in aph 173 to 215.Where he clearly mentions how to combat symptomless cases or cases with few symptoms.

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Bert has been on the Ramakrisnan protocol for the past 4+ weeks with no substantial improvement.

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A wonderfully wise homeopath has suggested that this lack of RBC production is the symptom of cancer, not the remedies. At this point, would it be advantageous to go back in his early *childhood history*, of which I have 16 years, to seek a remedy for this current cancer state?

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Keep going on the plussing for another 4 weeks and see if it improves. Who chose the Rx combination and why?

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Same thread five different views... How can I learn homeopathy

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This is a lie being spread by Secret Agent.
He keeps stating that Ramakrishnan says he cures 80% of cancers. He is doing a grave diservice to Ramakrishnan and to homeopathy. What Ramakrishnan did say is that early stages of breast and prostate cancers are close to 80% curable with patient compliance. He divides his patients into those he thinks have a chance of cure and those who are too advanced for anything other than palliative treatment. Of those he thinks have a chance, he has shown cure rates as low as 32% for liver cancer and as high as 86% for oral cancer and all percentages in between based on the type of cancer. By inacurately quoting him, Secret Agent is giving him and homeopathy a bad image. He should quit spreading lies on this BB.

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