Yesterday, on MSNBC I watched the program about the young girl Rothenberg, and her disease Cystic Fibrosis. I was devastated at what the allopahts had done to her. I can't believe that her parents didn't know about homeopathy. When someone you love is so sick and about to die you explore EVERYTHING. Did she try it.
I won't buy that homeopathy couldn't help her to be CURED.
And BTW, what the hell is this disease, is this common?
My heart cried for her, did anyone see her entire body covered with surgery scars. Were these guys trying to save her or conduct experiments on her ?

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I've told you already that they are total quacks and murderers.

If this is new to you, prepare yourself emotionally for a lifetime of witnessing legalized murder by quacks who need to be executed!

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Albert, also<br />Hahnemannian444<br />#5904

Here is a URL with many links providing information on the variety of befallments which can strike someone with CF:

http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/normap/CF.htm

The disease is one that is passed genetically. Homeopaths are rarely given an opportunity to treat those who suffer from this disease because a great deal of research money is collected and focused on allopathic treatments for this disease--so people are always seen by the allopaths first, who tell them there is no cure--but they have some "new" treatments that the child might be eligle to undergo....

FF, you are going to come across a huge number of people like the parents of this child--and you are going to come across a large number of doctors like the ones treating this child. All of them are convinced that they are doing the best that they can--using the only possible means of treatment that can be effective. To us it appears that the "treatments" are just sickening experiments...and ineffective...but these people believe this is the best that can be done.

You have to respect that they have chosen their way and made their decisions about how they will face the challenge they have. The only thing that is accomplished by ranting and raving about "ignorance" like this--to the extent of condemning the people involved--is that it makes them less open to other possible means of treatment. Keep in mind that there are a number of terrifying emotions involved in these decisions: parents who have a CF child often deal with great fear and guilt for example, and truly want to spare their child from suffering in any way. When they are told that this is what medicine can do for their child, many jump at the chance because of the possibility of treatment.

Doctors who get involved in this research are human beings, too. They honestly believe that they are using the best form of medicine there is. They don't go to medical school for many years, learn all the skills and information that they have, and learn how to deal with these cases to the extent that they do because they "want to be murderers", as Albert suggests; they do this because they really want to help--and they are told and believe that this is the only way they can help. This is why so many of them are defensive and dismissive of other treatments, no matter how effective they are: they've invested their whole lives in their method and won't accept other options readily.

We're all like this, you know.

Perhaps the most important lesson Hahnemann left for us is that ranting and raving against the allopaths as he did is simply not effective--and is, in fact, dangerous.

Hahnemann was effectively shut out by the allopaths he so vociferously condemned. They often manipulated him into his rage just to watch him be angry!! And then they would denounce his work based on his "obvious" emotional instability. We should not take this tactic ourselves: it failed Hahnemann miserably and it will fail us miserably too. I don't think conventional medicine offers much to anyone at all, but I also know that simply spouting frustrated anger at that institution, with all its power and money and influence, succeeds in making me look powerless. So who would come to see a powerless whiner for treatment of anything? No one, that's who. I'm forced to try another tack.

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I think Albert's views are quite extreme.

My line of thinking has always been more towards integrative medicine, as I have been saying in my previous posts too. I don't think that allopathy is all evil, one thing coming right away to mind is surgery. The position of learned allopaths on their mode of practice is that they know its far from perfect but that's what they know at the moment.

Similarly, I think that homeopathy is not THE only method of healing, it is one of THE methods available.

I agree that allopaths don't go to college to earn degrees to kill people, they are doing what they think is best.

Apart from this, you being a homeopath and knowing CF also, do you think its curable or treatable with homeopathy. That's the main question.

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HI folks. I thought CF was caused by a faulty gene. Does homeopathy make the gene right when it cures CF?

ChaChaHeels,

I did not say that they "'want to be murderers,'" as Albert suggests..."

I said that they ARE.

I don't doubt for a second their sincerity, but nor do I doubt for a nanosecond that they're ignorantly misguided fools who graduate from medical schools in a system of medicine WITHOUT any cures who are therefore QUALIFIED or board-certified QUACKS who can do nothing else but murder their patients.

Most of the wrongheaded errors and evils perpetrated on the human race have been from sincerely motivated but misguided people.

Sincerity without any of the other 12 Great Virtues means little when human life, health and sanity are at stake, so I say, because I have seen enough already for many lifetimes: OFF WITH THEIR HEADS AND BACK TO HELL!

It is as obvious as can be that doctors dealing with what are to them incurable diseases are just going to kill their patients, and that means ALL chronic diseases in allopathic land.

Neither do I understand why people have anything to do with people who are self-admitted quacks since that means they are killers.

One plus one still equals two in my world; what it means in quack land and on the Moon (LPHs) as well as in the public mind is obviously skewed and distorted to some delusion due to mass brainwashing that would make Hitler and Goering envious of the allopathic pharmaceutical companies and the AMA.

Moreover, I just recently said this in the middle of page 3 of On The Scientific Mechanism:

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You put into quotation marks something I did NOT say; you'll push my buttons big time every time you do that.

Please cool it with that, for I am very precise and thus attempt to get things absolutely right and consequently am very sensitive when I am so horribly misrepresented under the guise of quoting me.

No appologies are necessary, though, for your points are an important counter-viewpoint that are best to have been posted.

I could have done so myself but liked it succinct and am really fed up with allopathic medicine and low-potency pseudo-homeopathy as systems.

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And I also take exception to this remark: "The only thing that is accomplished by ranting and raving about 'ignorance' like this--to the extent of condemning the people involved--is that it makes them less open to other possible means of treatment..."

I disagree and vociferously, because we are dealing with crimes!

We need to not only convert allopaths to homeopathy, but I insist that they and their entire system needs to be first held accountable for their/its crimes since they are deformaties, torture, the creation of insanity and mass murder.

Off with their heads!

We have the laws already; what is lacking is perception due to mass brainwashing.

So, off with their heads as a matter of justice and prevention of endless injustices because they are killers!

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I also disagree with this set of remarks about Hahnemann: "Perhaps the most important lesson Hahnemann left for us is that ranting and raving against the allopaths as he did is simply not effective--and is, in fact, dangerous.

"Hahnemann was effectively shut out by the allopaths he so vociferously condemned. They often manipulated him into his rage just to watch him be angry!! And then they would denounce his work based on his 'obvious' emotional instability. We should not take this tactic ourselves: it failed Hahnemann miserably and it will fail us miserably too."

The rejection of homeopathy by allopathy had absolutely nothing to do with Hahnemann's passionate anti-allopathic diatribes.

It was rejected because, like today, they are getting rich committing crimes of murder and torture that would conceivabley fall on their heads if the whole system suddenly admitted it.

Their whole livelihood depends upon their sustaining a status quo whether or not it works, and it's a very affluent livelihood too: $1 trillion dollars or 10-13% of the gross national product (GNP) will be lost when allopathy in diseases finally collapses.

Besides, nothing Hahnemann said about allopathy was untrue.

They murdered their patients with bloodletting and calomelization plus the other mineral drugs.

Today they do it with other drugs plus vaccines, but the effect is the same: mass murder in ghastly agonal and premature deaths after years of torture via iatrogenic diseases.

So, off with their heads and back to Hell with all of them!

That goes for their attorneys too, and the priests, and the bankers, and the scientists, and the insurance agents; infact, anybody who has sustained this torture- and mass-murder machine should be brought before the law and then executed since the evidence is rather overwhelming and so much admitted to that everyone knows it.

Hahnemann was vociferous, true.

So what; he was a lone voice in a wilderness and the only witness to the evils because all others saw only through allopathic eyes.

It is the same calculus with Hahnemannians opposed to low- and high-potency pseudo-homeopathy (LPH and HPH), remembering that the HPHs are the woosey ones with the matriarchal attitude who would thus forgive people who need to be executed for karmic reasons since it would be better for them and all concerned for them to go back to Hell for a while and take their blood cult with them.

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Then there's this: "...simply spouting frustrated anger at that institution, with all its power and money and influence, succeeds in making me look powerless. So who would come to see a powerless whiner for treatment of anything? No one, that's who. I'm forced to try another tack."

We ARE powerless!

Who comes for treatment? everyone and their brother after I cure somebody they know, and this continues for decades.

I turn away patients, and I made the mistake when my father died three years ago of not taking any new patients and dissolving all of my cases so that I could exit this black hold of Calcutta in the West.

We do not have problems finding patients, believe me, because EVERYONE is sick.

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But I appreciate your attempt to counterbalance my diatribe.

It's honestly fair enough that it would be equally extreme on the reconcillitory side, but you shouldn't have pushed my buttons by misrepresenting something I said and then blaiming Hahnemann for the failure of allopaths to embrace homeopathy, for both are totally wrong.

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fitness first,

You said that you favor the development of "integrative medicine."

Pipe dream, pal; and read Article 52 of the ORGANON before you say that again.

All other systems are allopathic.

Very little of it is necessary.

Name those you think should survive into the future and why, and be specific about their benefits in your opinion.

And, first principles, sir, surgery is NOT medicine.

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I wonder how many of those other so-called genetic and congenital diseases are curable.

I have seen so many cures in case reports by Hahnemannians of the hundreds if not thousands of allopathically incurable diseases that logic says they are curable.

Will put it on my list of questions I'm about to ask of colleagues.

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Francine,

You said: "HI folks. I thought CF was caused by a faulty gene. Does homeopathy make the gene right when it cures CF?"

Sweetie, most of what involves so-called genetic causes of diseases are suppositions about cause and effect.

Allopathic medicine is famous with us for having cause and effect eternally superficial and usually fouled up.

They actually constantly admit to it, but it escapes our attention because it happens with regularity and is presented on the nightly news in the form of some "new discovery that researchers expect [or hope] will lead to a cure of" one of their gazillions of incurable diseases.

Moreover, I am rather positive that a great many of these so-called congenital diseases will ultimately be attributable to vaccinations and the accompanying foreign proteins of the beasts they culture them on slammed into the children as infants by this police state also unwittingly (due to ignorance) in league with allopathic mass murder, torture and premature death while they steal all of your money in the process.

Besides, a cause has absolutely nothing to do with the treatment of a disease:

"Impulses that produce natural illness, be they physical or psychological in nature, cannot be changed. Once a person is ill, whatever has led to the illness can no longer be influenced directly. But these natural causes of disease are not so strong as to make every person ill. Only those of certain temperaments or who are predisposed [usually by drug diseases and less-than-optimal health in their parents] will be affected by these relatively weak disease impulses" (Georg von Keller, M.D., On Q-Potencies, CLASSICAL HOMOEOPATHY QUARTERLY, "4/91," Vol. 4 (1991), No. 4, pp. 123-24).

He also has a footnote reference there, but this site does not provide us with exponents, so I add it here:

"4) ORGANON VI, Article 31: "If I define illness as a disposition or as the human organism's being out of tune, I by no means intend to give a hyperphysical [extra-planar or so-called 'miasmatic,' as the word is today corrupted by HPHs] explanation of the inner nature of illness...This definition merely tries to suggest what illnesses have been proved not to be: they are neither mechanical nor chemical changes in the material substance of the body, nor do they depend on any material disease substance. They are merely spirit-like, dynamic alterations of life."

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HI Albert. So are you saying there's not a faulty gene at all, or there is and homeopathy cures the faulty gene when it cures the patient? Sorry to be so stupid.

Sorry again. I don't know what 'enable messaging' means. Don't really understand how the system works.