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Old 16th July 2003, 08:49 PM
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can i please have some input on your views about bone scans (for osteoporosis)The blurb says it's done by x-ray but the x-rays are only one tenth power that of a chest x-ray -BUT they last for 20 minutes - can't be good can it?
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If there's a suspicion for osteoporosis, why not just take the main remedy for that problem--
calc-phos. 6X four times a day? I don't see how it can hurt, but if for some reason the remedy makes you feel worse, you need only stop taking it and you'll be fine again in no time.

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Old 17th July 2003, 11:30 AM
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Well, there are risks of exposure with bone scans. Here in Canada the number of scans a patient can undergo per a set period of time is restricted--I think once every 2 years is the maximum allowable. I could be wrong about the length, but it seems to me that patients are warned of the risk and avoid scans unless they are absolutely necessary.

I agree about the Calc Phos tissue salts. Here's a brief little story:

I had to find a GP for my mother over the last year as her long-time GP passed away last August. This is a very difficult task here, it took me several months and I finally found a local doctor for her after months of searching, application filling, and finally just begging the Doc to reconsider taking her on as a new patient. The doctor booked an appointment to interview my mother and we all went to see her.

In the interview, the doctor looked at my mom's x-rays and said, "Well, there is a little bit of osteoporosis here...nothing drastic...but...you know we have some wonderful new drugs now."

I prepared myself...thought to myself, "it better not be Fosamax, or I'll keep looking for another doctor..." and the GP told me that she had found some marvellous new drugs which were so effective at reversing osteoporosis.

She knew, at that point, that I was a homeopath (its a small town. We all end up knowing something about each other). She earnestly said to me: "Have you heard of Biophosphates? They are very, very effective!"

Funny, huh? "Biophosphates" are the phophoric tissue salts in combination. She was talking about the miraculous "new" therapy that homeopaths have been using for many decades.
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Thanks both for your replies. It was my plan to have another bone scan (which i haven't had yet) Osteoporosis was discovered by chance 4 years ago when i was offered bone scan by some project Society of Homeopaths told me about!!(no comment)I had no symptoms then and still have no symptoms incidently. I had homeopathic treatment (Calc Phos 200, 1M and 10 M over the years also Symphytum) and was wondering if i should have another scan to "prove" or otherwise that the osteoporosis was either worse, better or not changed. Still can't decide, but have cancelled my appointment for now. My GP is most interested to know if the homeopathic treatment has had any effect!!!
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hi Ma

Dxa scans are done using Xrays but you would be exposed to more background radiation if you flew 300 miles in an aeroplane or if you spent 1 day in Cornwall than you would from having a scan.
A scan lasts about 5 - 10 minutes per area- the spine and hip are both scanned routinely.
There is no limit to the number of scans you can have - the only reason 2 years (or so) is left between scans is because the comparison of the scans is more accurate at that time.Nothing to do with radiation!
This is what the scanner manufacturers say anyway !
Have your scan repeated and lets prove that the remedies work!

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Nothing to do with radiation!
This is what the scanner manufacturers say anyway !
Uh huh. The Scanner manufacturers say this.

If it has been a number of years since the last scan, I'd think it would be okay to check again. Osteoporosis doesn't really produce symptoms that you'd notice...unless bones began to break easily for you.
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If one were to use the combination 12 salts or Calc Phos cell salt as mentioned for osteoporosis, how long would one take them?

Great story about the doctor "finding" the new treatment!
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Thanks Hoppit that's really useful. HAve made new appointment for September and will go with confidence. It will be good to prove there's been an improvement without Fosamax. Will let yo all know.
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Old 19th July 2003, 07:47 AM
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great ma57 go for it!

We need , as Homeopaths , to gather info like this to help our case!

it's so simple to measure bone density and have tangible evidence of improvement whether the improvement is through dietary/lifestyle changes , bisphosphonates, HRT or any other therapy we've tried !

Please see 'milk for babies ' post in coffee shop.

Believe me - the only reason we wait a minimum of 2 years between scans is because it is more accurate to work out percentage increases/ losses over time.
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Hi Guys, remember this one!Well I've just got my results - absolutely no change in almost 5 years!! Lumbar spine was 63% then and is same now. THis is very good news. No Fosamax, no HRT just homeopathy and good diet. GP quite impressed but said -"well lets hope you don't break anything" at least he's humble enough to admit I'm doing OK without orthodox medical help. It would have been nice to have had an increase in bone density, but I shall carry on with the Calc Phos 6x daily and see what that does. I'll have another test in 2 years or so.
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