WRONG!!!!
You know what happens when one assumes?
You make an ASS out of U and ME!

Thanks, Shirley! This is the part I'm going to try:

Put together a highly varied organic fruit and vegetable salad, add manuka honey, raw molasses, wheat grass, spirulena, beansprouts, and whatever is currently fashionable. Potentise it to 3x, and run a proving on it. Our name for this is "Homeonutrients," you can call it what you will.

Snoopy

Is that true...that it is the totality of the symptoms of the presenting complaint? What if the homeopath thinks something else needs to be cured more than the presenting complaint...does he ignore the presenting complaint or include it in the problem he thinks is more important?

I'd like to give an example but would prefer if someone with more experience give a good example. My example would be the woman who comes in for the painful heels. But what about her phobia of singing in public...she has sung in public...but the anticipation is too much for her to bear so she rarely does it...maybe if she gets drunk. But she has an extrordinary talent that is wasted. Maybe she wouldn't even mention this to the homeopath...he wouldn't know..My question is would he want to know...would he want to question more to find out if there was anything else about this patient? And then what would take precedence...the painful heals..or the phobia..or would he try to find a remedy that included both? Or would it not matter if he knew about the phobia...and that a three legged stool of the painful heels would be enough to address that( unknown to the homeopath )problem. Or if the phobia isn't a concern of hers at the moment..she is avoiding situations like that...puts that problem on a back burner...then would it not even need to be addressed at the moment?

Hans, yes I am a homeopath. It is well known on this BB that Cha Cha Heels = Divina.

Even if I weren't a homeopath, and I were a barber, my argument still stands. My point is, if people continue being divisive, they will gain nothing from it; no one will seek out their homeopathic treatment once homeopathy is roundly denounced because its adherents can't figure out how to unite in order gain prominence and acceptance in the world. If you can't respect your peers, how can anyone else respect you?

So...in the end...fat lot of good an adherence to Boenninghausen will do you, and a rigid mindset around it too.

Carol, if a homeopath has evidence to believe that the problem is more deeply rooted and more pervasive than the presenting complaint alone, then the homeopath should gather than evidence and use it. There ought to be plenty of it in the case.

Eg. Your afraid to sing patient with the incredible voice: you should see plenty of variations on this phenomenon in the case, if its to be considered important. Perhaps you can find other instances of "fear of performing" or "fear of criticism" or "fear of failure" or whatever applies (you must be clear, from asking the patient, what it is precisely which keeps her from singing. If it is fear, what is the fear, exactly?). If this symptom truly is valuable to your analysis, you ought to see it manifesting throughout the case. Even physical symptoms should mimic this tendency.

In the case you're writing about, perhaps the rubric "Anticipation, Ailments from" would apply. Perhaps this can be an etiological marker to the physical complaint which brought her to you--ie, the pain in her heels may have started as a result of some anticipatory anxiety. This is just an example of how things might actually look in a case like this--you'd have to ask for clarification directly from the patient.

If it should work out to be this way--you have a pt. whose remedy is in the rubric "ailments from anticipation" using your singing rubric, you can see how the heel pain would result from a similar anticipatory anxiety immediately preceeding that condition. It would be great to find this physical symptom, when you look it up in the repertory, has a few remedies in common with the ailments from anticipation rubric--it doesn't always happen, but it would make for an even stronger "argument" for a particular remedy for your patient.

[ 23. June 2003, 02:05: Message edited by: ChaChaHeels ]

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Interesting...pain in heels...maybe afraid to move forward at all. I guess the case needs further study.

Dear Hans,

I know you are serious minded and intelligent homeopath. You always comment with great care. In the education system you don't support any body. You write what ever you feel whether this gives some advantage to any member or not. I request you to Please do not enter in this duplicate aliases pandora box. Hans, anna bryant, shirley, dr. leela, pannaklal, pk sinha and few others are in the good book. Do you ever observe that when these persons give ruling, few members leave the thread. This is also a kind of respect.


Chachaheel said above "Hans, yes I am a homeopath. It is well known on this BB that Cha Cha Heels = Divina." No not at all. She first started without clarfication. It was Dr. MAS who caught her on the net and then she admitted. Earlier she was decieving the members by becoming barber. Dr. MAS is not a single person. We are all different. Actually this is Doctor's (Digital Radio Multi Access Subscriber) System whose name was given DR.MAS by which you send posts through multi subscriber system. This is not illegal.

This is a new system and can be merged with internet. Dr. Rana was the first who started in 1997. Through this system you don't have to break any rule of bb nor you required to enter into the bb through back hole. This bb is very safe and sound. No body can hack this system. But you can catch any person if a person try to decieve you.

[ 23. June 2003, 06:43: Message edited by: Doctor Aqeel Choudhary ]

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Hi Everyone,

I haven't read the Organon 6th ed, but have sifted through it and based on that I can say that the "Organon re-visited - 7th ed" seems like a very good effort for making new comers like me understand what Hahnemann wanted to say.

I leave the merits/demerits of this exercise for the experts to decide though.

Some quick thoughts on alias etc., I would agree 100% with what the Pakistani homeopaths have been saying so far that anyone who wants to prescribe on this BB must do so with his real name and credentials. All others must stay out. This is the only way of showing confidence they have in their prescriptions. Otherwise any new comer like me could start prescribing for someone without the moral obligation of being answerable and if something goes seriously wrong, then sign in with a new name.

At least majority of board members who are homeopaths also do so with their real name and designations e.g. David Johnson, Leela, Shirley, Hans.

If you are afraid of spam/junk mail etc. you can always skip mentioning your personal e-mail etc.

For non-homeopaths who are not prescribing either, the option of signing in with alias remains an open option.

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Carolorr

I read your lengthy post and was unable to find even one reason for not posting with the real name IF you were to prescribe. If you don't prescribe then you don't need to post with your real credentials. Period.

I have pointed out the reason and need for this information and still stand by my logic.

Do you think the homeopaths that I have mentioned about in the previous post are crazy to publish their real names here. They have the confidence in what they suggest and back it up with their real presence.

Regarding protecting privacy, yes it needs to be protected in certain issues, but not if you are trying to play with people's health. You are comparing apples with oranges now.

When I suggest to post real names for prescribers, I am not being a guardian of anyone, I am only talking about ethics of prescribing.

Give me just one good reason of why a practitioner would want to remain anonymous? Have you ever seen a doctor sitting in a clinic with alias names and behind a veil and suggesting remedies to patients so that he could "maintain his privacy". This is ridiculous and beyond comprehension.

To top it all, some members are posting with two or even more different names and prescribing also, that says a lot about thier confidence level.

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I would agree 100% with what the Pakistani homeopaths have been saying so far that anyone who wants to prescribe on this BB must do so with his real name and credentials.

I read your lengthy post and was unable to find even one reason for not posting with the real name IF you were to prescribe. If you don't prescribe then you don't need to post with your real credentials.

But calls for real name and credentials has also been asked of those members not prescribing by certain persons on BB.

This is not clinic. Why should any member put credentials. Warning issued on BB that this is not clinic, so anyone taking prescription unless under qualified doctor of homoeopath should not require credentials of BB member making prescription. If any person want doctor homoeopath should go to web site which are listed on web pages where doctors display name and qualifications.

Dear Members

The message what members put out by not using real names should be clear:

They lacking the self-confidence to face reality, but still want to be part of it.

They don’t want to be personally accountable for what they write, and think that accusations against other membes don’t fall back on them.

Using two pseudonyms instead of one dose not make this person more trustworthy either.
This rather confuses the newcomer on this board and should not be supported by the administration.

Pseudonym users can claim to be homeopaths without knowing what homeopathy is.

Supporting things like:
· THE TOTALITY OF THE SYMPTOMS is no longer the ONLY way to find the Similimum.
· The Similimum of the Central State, when given in at least 10m potency, gives an almost instant reaction.

does not show, that these supporters are homeopaths.
It rather puts ideas in students minds of: there might be an easy way out to learn homeopathy and we can just use summaries of the Organon paragraphs.
But this is a falacity, a waist of time.
For good reason Hahnemann advised: COPY THE METHOD, BUT COPY IT EXACTLY.
If they were homeopaths, the following paragraphs known to them, would swiftly have changed their opinion:
Par.: 50
&gt;&gt;CURE BY SYMPTOM-SIMILITUDE&lt;&lt;
Par.: 52
‘’There are but two principal methods of cure: the one based only on accurate observation of nature, on careful experimentation and pure experience, the homeopathic [before me never designedly used] and a second which does not do this, the heteropathic or allopathic. Each opposes the other, and only he who does not know either can hold the delusion that they can ever approach each other or even become united, OR TO MAKE HIMSELF SO RIDICULOUS AS TO PRACTISE AT ONE TIME HOMOEOPATHICALLY AT ANOTHER ALLOPATHICALLY, ACCORDING TO THE PLEASURE OF THE PATIENT; a practice which may be called criminal treason against divine homeopathy.’’

And another point I want to make:
It is exactly the want-to–be homeopaths who are dividing what they see as homeopathy with comments like above, confusing the not conversant reader.

They are the ones who make homeopathy look like a free-for –all therapy where everything goes and nobody is responsible for anything. They are the ones who feel that every fashionable whim is to be included into what they belief is homeopathy ignorant of the rules and principles which define homeopathy.

Homeopathy and the homeopaths are undividable, because they work with clearly defined rules and principles, which are read, understood and practised by homeopaths day by day. These rules and principles are laid down in the Organon as well as the definition of HOMEOPATHY and HOMEOPATH. The Organon does not change itself and attempts to change the principles in order to accommodate want- to- be homeopaths are only geared towards making unreliable a method, complete and trustworthy.

HOMEOPATHY has stood the test of time in its fundamental principals, and the homeopaths using them daily bear witness with each cured case.

True homeopaths are the ones who guide the student to study the principles in a orderly systematic fashion after having understood and practised them themselves to the extent , that there is no doubt about them anymore.

Keying in a few rubrics into a computer program and giving ‘’ what comes up’’ has nothing to do with the serious practice of HOMEOPATHY.

I tried to contact the person writing the above article, only to find out, that the contact is dead. You see—just another one who feels the need to be unaccountable.

On this note, I want to leave it here as other duties are calling.

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