Hi members,

After having read a lot on this BB about the homeopaths who secretly practice mixopathy (I like this terminology though)) I was forced to think about the reasons and here is what I think are the most logical ones are:

1. Economics - This is the single most influencing factor causing homeopaths to revert to mixopathy. Why - if homeopathic practice is your day job and you earn your livelihood and feed your family on its earnings, then you will do mixopathy. Most of the patients don't know about the workings of this treatment system and might not be willing to go through the trial error drill i.e. even if you chose the remedy with utmost care and still get no response with maybe a 30C in 3-4 days then you will have a lot of options to think about e.g. either the remedy is not right, too low a potency, wait some more etc. etc. This fear that every homeopath has when prescribing a remedy that whether its the right one or not, is the potency right or not and so on, the lack of absolute certainty is something which keeps the less-than-the-best homeopaths revert to mixopathy. With mixopathy they are assured of results. They don't care what produced it as long as some amelioration is there, it will make the patient come back to them and they will have their livelihood. Period. Otherwise, they will soon have a repute of not being capable. I have learnt that some homeopaths are even giving steroids and allopathic drugs just to produce some results. That proves the economics point beyond doubt.

2. Poorly trained homeopaths - This is also a big contributor. I know of no big names (so called Masters of present times) that came from Pakistan. India has produced Sankaran, Greece has Vithoulkas, USA has Herscu. During my last visit to Pakistan, I was able to see a couple of renonwed homeopaths practicing, all of them prescribing combination remedies and within 3-4 minutes of talking to patients. This is ridiculing homeopathy, lieterally. The reason for poorly trained homeopaths is that they have teachers who themselves don't know anything. You can understand my point just by telling me what is the curriculum of training for becoming a homeopath. (The syllabus that is taught for 3-4 years in order to become a homeopath.)

I was surprised to see the question papers of a homeopathic college for its yearly exams, all 4 years. I won't name it. It was a test of memory about remedies and not homeopathic skills. No mention of any case taking skills ???

I have a lot more to say, will keep adding as and when we get some conversation going.

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By the way, Herscu also does not rely on homeopathy alone when treating cancer. He takes help from allopathy (radiation/chemotherapy). So the end justifies the means. No ...pathy, just sym-pathy with the sufferer. This is what I agree to fully, cure the patient, forget about homeo or allo pathy.

Dr. Ramakrishnan is another example. Some don't agree to this method of treatment, discarding it as non-homeopathic.

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I think you did not visit India. I have a long history in staying there. About 98 percent homeopaths are using combinations. Almost each homeopaths see 10 to 20 patients daily. Most of the patients visit to homeopaths with their acutes. Treating acutes is the most difficult job. So generally they rely on mixopathy. In India, some one hundred and seventy six homeopathic pharmacies are working. 100 percent are manufacturing compound medicines as well beside few of them are making potenices. Obviously who are using these compounds. Of course the homeopaths.

Your question is very right and valid.

[ 11. June 2003, 11:18: Message edited by: Khokhar ]

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<b>All the best<br />Khokhar<br />(CAM Expert)</b>

About Herscu, wait for john comments. He is the supporter of Herscu. As for as Dr. R protocol is concerned this has been discussed 100 times on the net. Everybody confirmed that his protocol is not homeopathy. If he is getting result then this does not mean that he is using homeopathy. :razz:

have not you listen from his mouth, that he has 80 percent curability rate in cancer. which is even for common cases of homeopathy is not possible. :razz: This is a big blunder from a renowned mixopath. If you want to get more info about him contact to Rochelle Marc and Hoppit. Both are learning this mixopathic procedure.

Believe me 80 percent is a great great great blunder for cancer treatment. I know that a well reputed homeopath Vithoulkas claimed that he has 70 to 75 percent curability rate for his general patients.

[ 11. June 2003, 11:38: Message edited by: Khokhar ]

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Re Dr. R, again I say, 'Do people think if they repeat a lie often enough, others will begin to believe it?'

Dr. R. does not prescribe a mixopathy. Dr. R. does not prescribe allopathic meds. He uses one remedy at a time, even when he alternates remedies. He tells patients that he does not want them using any allopathic means of treating their cancer, but if they have already started, and refuse to quit, he will not turn them away.

As for his percentage of cure rate, he first divides up the patients into those he thinks may have a chance at being curable and those he knows going into it he can only palliate. His cure rates are only for those he thinks may be curable. And even then, he states his cure rate at between 65%-78% depending on the type of cancer. He also states his cure rate for stomach cancer at 55% and liver cancer at only 32%.

If you're going to quote someone, please do so accurately and quit slandering them.

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Epanadoes means repitation of different words in inverse order but having the same meaning or sense. What you are telling us is the same which I told you earlier. :razz:

You did not closly observed him. I not even saw him treating patients but seen and met with some cancer patients as well personally those who were the under the treatment of Dr. R. Many patients did not recovered. He spoke blunderily for his curability rate. Many patients were died after getting the treatment from him. While some of the allopathic doctor claimed that he wasted the time of those patients which were manageable under allopathic or chemotherapy treatment.

You say his patients also use allopathic medicine under the recommendation of other doctor with homeopathic medicines. This sounds same but words are different.

I am also saying the same thing. His patients use allopathic medicines at the same time with homeopathic medicine. Whether he himself recommended the medicine or the patients were already on allopathic drug. Does not matter.

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Fitness first,

You have raised a very interesting topic. I have great interest in Pakistani homoeopathy and have had the opportunity to see a good number of Pakistani homoeopaths. You are right, a majority of them prescribes combinations. Some even take resort to allo drugs. But there are really good homoeopaths as well such as Dr. Saify, Dr. Nami, Dr. Fakir, Dr. Raeesul Qadar, to name a few.

When you visit Pakistan next time, do meet the above homoeopaths.
Regards

[ 11. June 2003, 12:33: Message edited by: MA ]

(The treatment of Cancer can be quite successful with Homeopathy, often in conjunction with allopathic medicine in advanced cases. In early stages, particularly with breast and prostate, the success rate is close to 80% with compliance by the patient.) Ref. http://www.drramakrishnan.com/cancer.html

Shirleys open you eyes. I believe in the proof which you see on the spot which you are lacking. But here I presented a less important proof. Conjunction with homeopathy and 80 percent.

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Mrs Shirley Open your eyes.

Another reference taken from the note which Dr. Rama sent to his book seller.

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MA

Please let me have the complete contact details of any of these homeopaths, especially in Lahore. Go through my other post, "signs of a good homeopath" on this BB and let me know if the names you have mentioned meet or exceed that criteria. Thanks.

Regarding the discussion about Dr.R, I have first hand experience with him. He doesn't do mixopathy and discourages allopathy in general, except surgery.

I have his book with me and can tell you that Shirley is saying right.

A word of advice though, unless you can meet him face to face for the first time and interview, don't go to him. Secondly, he is way too busy now so you will be better off seeing someone who knows Dr. R's protocol. This will increase your chances.

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