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Old 2nd June 2003, 11:25 AM
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Hi Everybody,

I recently read a couple of articles tooting Oscillococcinum (which is basically Anas Barbariae)in 200 potency as one of the best remedies know for influenza. It is widely used in Europe.

I wanted to know if anyone on the BB has some experience with it and if yes, what dosage and potency.

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Dear Fitness,

IF you do a search of this forum, you'll probably find a number of threads discussing this including the experiences of different members.

More often than not though, I'd prefer the indicated similimum.

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Old 2nd June 2003, 11:39 AM
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Dear Fitness,

It's only effective if taken before there are any defining symptoms. If you read the double blind studies that were done, you'll see that what it does is shorten the duration by about 40% and decrease the severity of symptoms. The similimum can actually cure the acute in a very short time. However, if you don't know enough to get the correct similimum, then Occi will help more than doing nothing, but it does need to be taken at the very first onset. If taken early enough, it can abort the process, but only if taken very, very early on.
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Oour province, about 5 years ago, initiated a big push to vaccinate as many people as possible with the flu vaccine. Its very problematic, its free, clearly the pharmaceutical companies involved are making a nice profit from the big promotion, but no one is staying well. The flu rages as usual, and the vaccine has actually caused at least 1000 complications in itself every year its been given. Yet, every November, the TV and radio commericials start, the newspaper ads and supporting "articles on health" bombard us, and clearly homeopaths have their hands full trying to educate people about how to avoid getting sick with the flu and avoid getting the flu vaccines altogether. (I'm also not the only one to see a nice little connection between our provinces' big ad campaign to push the vaccines on people and this years big pneumonia mutation, SARS, which has only been seen to occur in Toronto and other more populated areas of Ontario, while the rest of Canada has seen very few cases).

This is where Oscillococcinum has been a godsend for me.

It is very true that the similimum which would best suit the case is ALWAYS the best remedy to give, but if you can educate your patients to take the Oscillococcinum BEFORE they even begin the prodromal stage of the flu--that is, when they get that small little feeling that tells them they feel like they are coming down with something--it will work beautifully. If it only does "part" of the trick, then I tell them to give me a call--and I can prescribe on the remaining symptoms to get them all cleared up in no time. If they feel like they have this option, they will gladly avoid the vaccination programs!

Giving the patient the option of avoiding the vaccination and "arming" them with the Oscillococcinum for use when they feel it is necessary has allowed me to keep many of my patients away from the vaccines--AND remain flu free!

If it is taken at the right time it does work very impressively, usually in way that most of my patients have never experienced before with the usual "flu" meds, like tylenol or some kind of neo-citran product. The "miraculous" results convince them that they made the right decision to avoid vaccines, and they feel much healthier and live much more healthily than others who buy into the whole vaccine push every year.

So, I have an approach I bring out every year: if my patients are interested in something like this for the flu and they ask me about the vaccinations, I always tell them about the oscillococcinum. They can make their own decisions--but many do like to tell me how successfully the oscillo worked for them when they needed it. It has become an excellent tool for promoting homeopathy over conventional medicine--its accessible to everyone, not very expensive, and extremely effective when properly used.
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I have prescribed Oscill. to patients and it does work IF taken very early. I have also known it to get the patient working towards cure and highlighting the need for the next remedy, often Gels.
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Dear Snoopy

First of all thanks again for the Dr. Bhatia thread, haven't seen it but will do now, definitely.

Regarding, Osc... , Helios Pharmacy is selling Anas Barb for around 1/3 the price of Osc.. and you can have it in any potency.

What I wanted to know more was, can I get it in 30 & 200 and then use it as and when needed, even on my daughter (2 months, if ever needed). i.e. for infants and kids, give them in 30 and adults in 200 potency. Any comments.

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Dear Members

Many thanks for the kind guidance. Will search this BB for any past threads on this and might get back if have some more Qs.

Thanks again.
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Dear Fitness First,

One time my daughter had a stomach flu. I tried everything! I was now into the second day and nothing had worked. Suddenly it dawned on me that I hadn't tried Oscillococcinum (which is only sold in the 200C). I gave her a dose and she improved right away and it turned out to be the correct remedy. I would have to say that when it's the right remedy, it will work. The next flu she had was a Gels. flu.

By the way, did you see that Dr. Bhatia is offering a free introductory course? Have a look at his thread if you haven't already.

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Dear Fitness First,

I didn't know Helios sold it in the 30 potency.

A 30C might be nice to have for a flu that wasn't too severe. This is how we decide on potency; not by age but on severity of symptoms.
Oddly enough, it's safest to use your high potencies on children. They are usually full of vital energy and can easily handle the energy of the remedy. We worry more about adults who are frail and allergic.

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Dear Fitness,

Oscillococcinum is a synthetic remedy. I.e., it is made by combining Anas-barb and Cordis-ext, two different organs, prior to potentization. It's a propriatary product and therefor it's illegal for any other pharmacy to make the remedy. Anas-barb by itself is not the same as Oscillococcinum.
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