A week ago, a patient came to my clinic and complained about respiratory problems like Pneumonia etc. I inquired about the symptoms and took as ordinary case. The remedy which I selected was Justicia 30.

Today, he came and said "sorry doctor, I did not tell you right thing that I had been diagonsed SARS when I was in Hong Kong. I decided to leave Hong Kong and came to native country Pakistan. I was afraid if I will tell anything true then pakistani press will follow me. So I decided not tell anything about my health and consulted you as ordinary patient. Now my all symptoms are improving day by day. This gives me immense confidence on you. After getting treatment from you I am feeling more comfortable and now I decided to tell you true situation and request you to treat me as SARS patient. I am very much worried and not slept whole night"

I checked his chest, there were no sign of congestion? I have no experience of treating SARS. What to do next?

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Dr. Inam Ullah Mirza, DHMS, MD, Ph.D
Member National Council for Homoeopathy *NCH*
& Chairman Research Committee
Ministry of Heatlh, Govt of Pakistan

If there is no sign of congestion, and this is a change from your first exam of the patient, and he seems to be getting better, then you've already done whatever you needed to do. A SARS patient IS an ordinary patient, and you have to treat this patient the same way as you would treat any other patient who comes to you for homeopathic medicine--take the case and prescribe, just as you did.

What prompted the choice for Justicia? What rubrics did you use for the prescription?

Looks like you did very well with what could have been another, blown-out-of-proportion ailment.

[ 14. May 2003, 11:30: Message edited by: ChaChaHeels ]

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HELLO INAM,

ONLY FIVE OR SIX LABS OF THE WORLD ARE DOING RESEARCH ON SARS. SYMPTOMS ARE VERY COMMON, ONE CAN'T DIFFERENCIATE INBETWEEN THEM. THERE IS NO SUCH LAB IN PAKISTAN WHICH CAN CONFIRM SARS PATIENT.

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Dear Dr. Mirza,

Have you reported the matter to the concerned Health officials? As a homoeopath, you are under obligation to report cases of communicable diseases to the concerned Ministry. I hope, you have fulfilled your obligations?
Regards

Dr. Shaikh,

You seem to be quite knowledgeable - at least on paper - about SARS. By the way, would you like to enlighten, what tests are done to confirm SARS. Can't it be diagnosed by symptoms alone?

I fear, you and Dr. Mirza both would disappear from the board for a week at least. This is my personal experience. Pakistanis are very lovable people but Pakistani homeopaths (barring a few exceptions) are not! They talk aimlessly and when it comes to serious discussion, they just look other way. Could both of you refute my experience by replying to the queries?

How is it possible that a person which and after was diagnosed as being with SARS syndrome was allowed to travel from Hong Kong without passing by the obligatory quarantine, and also how that person with a so extremely life threatening acute disease was able to travel from Hong-Kong to Pakistan with all that easily.

Sincerely I don't believe in that history. One of these people is lying certainly. I don't say it is the homeopath that is lying. Of course not! But probably the patient was just trying to make a "show off" about being in Hong-Kong in a so dangerous situation, and what he had wasn't SARS but any other inflammatory and infectious disease.

Think about it!

[ 16. May 2003, 22:26: Message edited by: Dinis Luis ]

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Dinis S Luis (DHom)<br />Classical Homeopathy<br />Diplomaed by "The School of Homeopathy", Devon, U.K.

Thanks Divina for your double way comments!

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; What prompted the choice for Justicia? What rubrics did you use for the prescription?

Re: Constriction of the lungs with cough and sneezing. Sound of slight weezing in steth. Fortunately his immune system was stronger.

As he was considerably improved. So I gave him a dose of Ignatia 1M as stated by Snoopy. Read Snoopy’s reply in another thread. That perspective on cancer treatment was appealing to me!

Sheikh sahib,

I agree with you, even today I can’t verify that he was SARS patient as there is no facility available in Pakistan.

M.A,

No, I am not bound to do so…

Disappearing reason: I am a practitioner. Some time clinic staff give response. All homeo doctors from Punjab province were gathered at Gujranwala to attend educational seminar. Maximum members of this board were present there. Mas was among the organizers as his lab WARSON was sponsoring that project. Send me your home address privately, I will send you a very very beautiful participation certificate by registered post which was designed by mas. He is a real artist and calligraphist.

These members of hhbb attended the seminar. Sheikh, asif, mujahid, mughal, dr.mas, dr. iqbal, ansar medical officer, majid, nasir, naeem, saboor, aamir, imran (an old member two or three posts), nasim and many many mores. They all came from different cities.

It is very difficult for me to discuss on net, as I daily see 20 to 30 patients on appointment. If the patient is sitting in front of you then you don’t find time to send comments at bb even then if you are so much curious to know.

Dinis,

I disagree with you. I think You are not living in this world.

Pakistan is a poor country. You don’t know about Pakistanis, They can move around from any country to any country with or without visa. When they have visa they will enter through proper channel when they don’t have they will use the other way.

For your kind info, From many countries You don’t need visa to travel to Pakistan. What illegal Pakistanis are doing if they don’t have any proper paper in a country and if they want to move back to their country Pakistan they just purchase the tickets and come to home. At airport no body will ask him any question. But the procedure is different when they will move to other country from Pakistan they need proper papers and proofs for traveling.

Even in Pakistan, some illegal foreigner are living. In each country some illegal persons are living. They don't use proper way of travelling.

Even you did not use your common sense in sending above post. :razz: why this disease is still spreading in other countries. Just due to the fact that people are still traveling from one region to others. Some knows they are SARS patient and some do not know that they have been effected. You can’t stop all traveling ways and you can’t seal complete borders. Recently Pakistan has sealed boarder with china. But that boarder which is a through way…. You can’t depute the whole army on each obscene spots.

[ 17. May 2003, 09:22: Message edited by: H/ Dr. Inam Mirza ]

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Dr. Inam Ullah Mirza, DHMS, MD, Ph.D
Member National Council for Homoeopathy *NCH*
& Chairman Research Committee
Ministry of Heatlh, Govt of Pakistan

Dear Dr. Mirza,

According to newspaper reports, there was scare in a chest hospital of Karachi (16-05-2003) when a patient suspected to be the first victim of SARS was brought there and quarantined. But that proved to be a false alarm as the tests and pathological reports indicated, the patient did not suffer from SARS. This news item refutes the claim about the absence of the facilities to diagnose SARS in Pakistan.

It is common knowledge that communicable diseases should immediately be reported to the concerned health officials. I wonder at the level of the training system of homeopaths in Pakistan which produces homeopaths like you who do not know their responsibilities and obligations!
Regards

thanks mirza for shedding light on the importance of justicia.

dear m.a no such reports published in news paper.

p.s, Again I would say I am not bound. I am a homeopath and in my period of education I never came across about this obligation or in Homeopathic Pakistan code of ethics, there is no such things written so I am not bound. If you know then please quote the reference. I am capable of treating epidemic diseases by the grace of Allah al-mighty. I have all the cure and management for epidemic diseases, why should I report the case without confirmation when I already said “I can’t say he was a SARS patient”, Secondly the patient is perfectly in control of disease. why should I start panic in the country without confirmation.As you also said it was a false alarm.

[ 19. May 2003, 10:38: Message edited by: H/ Dr. Inam Mirza ]

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Dr. Inam Ullah Mirza, DHMS, MD, Ph.D
Member National Council for Homoeopathy *NCH*
& Chairman Research Committee
Ministry of Heatlh, Govt of Pakistan