I don't discuss the way a Pakistani travel with or without papers, and I of course don't know Pakistan, but I know, and very very well Hong-Kong, a place where I was several times and I also know many Pakistanis coincidently or not, they were all good people who live and work in the United States, the place where I knew them.

What I have doubts is about the probabilities a person may have to leave Hong-Kong with SARS previously diagnosed, having to pass all airport controls, not to talk about the forced quarantine to which everybody is obliged when diagnosed SARS. The officials of the airport may not take care about their papers because he was leaving the country, but they will surely take care if he was leaving with a so dangerous disease.

So, do you think SARS is a disease so soft that allows for a patient diagnosed with it to travel from one country to another? (I'm not talking about papers or any legal documents but about the physical capacity to travel)
If it is possible then that disease is not so dangerous and severe as people say.

I still not believe in that authenticity of that SARS patient. People that are spreading the disease through other countries are people who were well before traveling and which have never been diagnosed with that disease. The disease has certainly a period of incubation and it may allow to a person travel to another country before developing the disease. If the disease was diagnosed before the trip then these people would not be allowed to travel, instead they would be forced to stay in the hospital in total isolation.

Best wishes

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Here is a report from the most widely circulated English Language Daily of Pakistan, DAWN:

http://www.dawn.com/2003/05/17/nat24.htm

Suspected Sars case creates panic
By Our Staff Reporter

KARACHI, May 16: Health department in particular and the medical community in general were thrown into confusion and chaos on Friday when a 24-year-old man suspected of suffering from the dreaded Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome was quarantined at the Ojha Sanatorium.

A special team of the World Health Organization was called in from Islamabad to interview the 24-year-old Kashif Nadeem, who runs a shop in Saddar. Later the WHO team, after careful examination, declared that Kashif had not been suffering from Sars.

Prof Noshad A. Shaikh, a member of the Sars task force, told Dawn that Nadeem would be released within the next three days. "There's no cause for concern since the WHO team says this man is not suffering from Sars," he said.

He said Nadeem had initially been suspected of having Sars by the doctors of a private hospital who had then referred the case to the Ojha Institute of Chest Diseases. The institute's doctors had advised immediate isolation of the man.

Later, they got in touch with the WHO team, who flew into the city soon. "By 6pm the WHO team had reached the Ojha Institute where they interviewed, and also examined, Nadeem in detail. And after about an hour they declared that Nadeem was not suffering from Sars, to the relief of everyone concerned."

The word that Pakistan's first Sars case may have been detected went through the medical community in a snap, causing considerable confusion and uncertainty. Dawn received numerous telephone calls about the case on Friday evening.

The health department's senior officials were on the ready to hold a press conference about Nadeem's case. However, when the WHO team declared that Sars was not involved, the press briefing plan was shelved.

A senior official told Dawn that doctors and common people alike were nervous about Sars because no treatment had yet been decided upon. "And the fatality rate is high too."

Some members of the Pakistan Medical Association and Infectious Diseases Society of Pakistan, at a recent press conference, had said that the fatality rate was 6 to 7 per cent. However some professionals led by Prof Viqar Zaman, a respected microbiologist, contend that the fatality rate is as high as ten per cent.

They are of the view that in this regard it is better to be edgy, and therefore alert, than to be complacent.

This also shows, the allopaths in Pakistan know their responsibilities and obligations. They immediately referred the case to the concerned officials.

The point in referring the case to the concerned officials is to contain the disease, there is no question whether one has the skills to treat an epidemic or not?
Regards

[ 20. May 2003, 08:58: Message edited by: MA ]

I don't know what is the tradition in your part of the country about the publication of news and type of conversation. You said news was published on 16-5-2003

and other said no such news published on that day.

then you came and refered a news which was published on 17 may instead of 16 may. You also quoted a web site. That news web site also mentioned 17 may. In your part of the country 16 may means 17 may. :razz: I am confuesed please clarify

This also confirm that pakistanis and pakistanis newspaper officials are irresponsbile that created unnecessary alarm against SARS among the public without taking confirmation.

[ 20. May 2003, 19:34: Message edited by: Secret Agent ]

Bond,

Again problem with comprehensio! Go through the whole thread once again! If still you don't understand, ask Dr. Mirza! I think, he would like to shed some light on the irresponsibility part of your post. At least, you seem to agree in part with something I said much earlier.
Regards

[ 21. May 2003, 07:34: Message edited by: MA ]

Let us learn to call a glass half full instead of calling it half empty!

Pakistanis are a nation of 140 million responsible people. The few acting irresponsibly cannot represent the whole nation or a profession.

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Best regards<br />Ghazi<br /><a href="http://www.sph.homeoweb.net" target="_blank">www.sph.homeoweb.net</a>

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[ 21. May 2003, 12:48: Message edited by: MA ]

Homeopathic code of ethics are different with allopathic code of ethics. If you report the case to allopathic doctor then what he can do? :razz:

There is no cure in allopathy for SARS while in homeopathy SARS is highly cureable. I think you have not read Bhattia's article on SARS. They (allopath) will keep the patient in isolation this can be done by anyone?

Ghazi,

This responsible nation of doctors has elected that irresponsible doctor by vote. :razz: Very stupid nation including Ghazi.

(To become a member of NCS (National Council for Homeopathy) The doctors cast vote in favour of that member. 50 thousands doctors cast their vote in favour of that irresponsible doctor from Punjab province. That irresponsible doctor stood second in election. He broke all the previous record of getting votes. Now you can use your common sense here and seet who is irresponsible. That doctor or 50 thousand doctors)


That irresponsible doctor was not interested to report a homeopathic case to allopathic doctor without confirming the disease of the patient. :razz:


I fully support his decission being a medical officer in the government hospital.

Hello irresponsible doctor.

Show some responsiblity and don't bother.

The NCH election 2001 had the lowest turnout, 10% in Punjab, 7% in Sindh and 5% in Baluchistan. I do not know, what was the percentage in the NWFP. That was for a number of hard conditionalities including the attestion of the ballot paper by a first class Magistrate. Secondly, to the most of voters the ballot papers were delivered just two or three days prior to the last date of the receipt of the ballot papers in the NCH election office at Islamabad. The result was that, a candidate from Sindh won by securing just 617 votes! While in the 1993 NCH elections the lowest number of votes secured by a winning candidate from Sindh was 2,137! So, it can safely be said, the present NCH has a non-representative character; it does not represent the aspirations of the homoeopaths of Pakistan.

Interestingly, all the three candidates for whom I voted from the province of Sindh lost the election!

Chaudhary Saheb, I know, who you are and why are you so angry but let me emphasise it is the few individuals who make mistakes, a Nation as a whole is to be always respected.

[ 22. May 2003, 08:05: Message edited by: Ghazi ]

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Ghazi,

You write quite convincingly. Your writings have added to my sense of love and respect for your great country.
Regards