Suggest some useful cancer homeopathic medicine which have good clinical results after trial.

Recommend some sites having info on cancer treatment by homeopathy.

What is the curablity rate of cancer in homeopathy?

Recommend some doctors having good background on treating cancer patients with homeopathy.

'Ever heard the words "politeness", "style" etc ?

'You been a low-rank military officer some time ago or something ?

You give your orders and everyone possibly having some knowledge is supposed to jump to your service, yes ?


/ Re: "some useful medicines..." -

For heaven's sake that is precisely what homoeopathy is not about.

That is a request/demand/order that NOONE here is allowed to answer in the expected manner.
Do not, do not, do not play around with a most serious thing like a great healing art, and a category of fatal cruel diseases in this way !

If anyone throws around a piece of "advice" again of this sort, "x, y, z is good for/against cancer",
then I am going to curse you for that, and here in public if need be.

The answer is simply that you look at the matter from a "conventional medicine" point of view.
Thinking "homeopathy might be an interesting branch of medicine, so let's tap their resources".

The only correct answer to that can be that
to have this wrong idea of it is of course not a sin, but if it leads to actions then it is not just regrettable, but can become outright dangerous, and anyway is likely to spoil the name of this great art.

Seeing what profession you name as yours, I got the impression that you were planning to collect some information with your commanding advertising here, and then add those remedies to your sales programm for people in need to purchase.
While nobody will rule out that you may have noble intentions with that ( as well ), that would ( also/ mainly ? ) amount to boosting your business by means of selling "homeopathy".
And that idea makes me sick.
If you ever thought about such thing then, if you have any bit of responsibility in yourself, you have to completely forget about that idea. Completely, and once for all.

A homoeopathic medicine MUST be selected and prescribed by a qualified, licensed and experienced expert; THEN it may be purchased from a well-stocked supplier.

You prefered to leave everyone in doubt and guessing about the reason of your interest and your aims.
But you did show that you have no idea, even in principle what homeopathy is like and about.

If you have a serious interest, it could be expected that you inform yourself a bit about the basics, reading some good general introd. information ( e.g. from reasonable books and/or online sources, e.g. the "For Beginners" section here at the HH site itself ) before expecting others to spend their time on your issue, could it not ?

If perhaps you should have a pressing personal interest, e.g. with some relative of yourself in need and you searching some information to help that person ( who knows, could be possible ? ), then why keep that secret and just invest four lines of commanding text on that - then worthy - issue ?
Do you earnestly expect anyone attracted to spend their time on helping you - if that should be the case - with that "inviting" secretive introduction ?

The most basic thing about homoeopathy is that it is and has to be strictly individualized.
If someone is suffering from a serious ailment, ca or other, then they must seek an expert who is up to the job, and get a PERSONAL prescription. Plus frequent follow-up consultations etc.
Everything else, any trials with whatever intention, self-chosen prescription, ideas collected on boards like this, picked up from books, etc etc, is in effect nothing but foolish and most likely to
a) in the better case: just not help at all, or
b) in the worse case: mess up the case and do harm, which, in plain words, in ca can mean accelerating death and increasing pain.

You do NOT, NEVER EVER, give or sell remedy x for or against ailment y, but you most carefully select it for an individual person at a given point in time.

Like you go to a good tailor, and have some cloth made - fitting for you, especially, "tailor-made" !
A number of remedies have proven their effectiveness against various types of cancer, in principle, as well as other ailments, and the expert who is up to it will choose one from those to fit the case at the given point in time.

"Clinical trials" is the standart procedure in conventional allopathic medicine. It does not apply to homoeopathy, which is a completely different age-proven system of medicine of its own rights, with its own laws, principles and research-methods.


// Re: "Recommend some sites..." -

If you should be seriously interested - or anyone else - then the first thing to do would be to do a search on this board and its archives, by using the option offered at the top right of the screen, for keywords - so you could read what others have written before, filter out what looks reasonable and serious, and well-informed, and read that.
You would find a bit on cancer, too. Why should people write the same things again and again, if the information is already there and can easily be re-used in the described way ?

Sites with detailed information are meant for homoeopaths anyway;

and the best ones ( on the topic dealt with here ) are not in English.


// Re: "Curability rate" -
Again that entirely depends on type, stage, individual case, skill of the practitioner, personal circumstances, etc.
You find some information on this board also on that.
The earlier the treatment starts, the better the prognosis, though that is not the only factor.

Also: homoeopathy is both a science and an art.
What is the rate of, say, musicians to be able to touch your heart with their performance ? - Depends on the individual, and what degree of mastery they have; plus how acessible your heart is, right ?

/// Re: "recommend some doctors" -

Now that sounded rather like you were seeking help for someone, were you ?
Then why not say so ( not necessarily personal/private details, which are no-one's business, but in general, so that the readers that you wished for get an idea what your questions are for ) ?

The answer would depend on the part of the world, again the purpose ( a patient to see them, just asking things, joining a seminar, finding publications by them ... ) and other details.
If I would need one, I would know where to go / send a relative ; and if in doubt I would read their publications first, and compare with what knowledgeable others have written on the matter.

Summary:

Treat a most serious matter in an appropriate manner !

Make clear what your question is about.

Write in a style that is serving your purpose.

The way in which a board like this is used determines what sort of people are attracted to come there, and stay there, and what amount and quality of knowledge is available through it for others.
If you understand what I mean...

If you need a very good homoeopath, then that one will have the necessary knowledge, about remedies, and everything else. Why try to research that then yourself, if it is pressing ?

You reap what you sow...


>> These were the final orders of the field-marshal of the world army of homoeopathic healing.

Panthera

P.S.: ...Who only posted again to let off some steam caused by the way cancer was dealt with on this board. That's why.

[ 13. May 2003, 13:09: Message edited by: panthera-non-onca ]

Panthera, I like your most excellent reply.

There are over 3,000 known remedies, any of which can have excellent results if the remedy fits the person. One must look at the provings of the remedies to find the rubrics that fit the person, rather than clinical results.

Homeopathy doesn't treat disease, it treats the person with the disease. So start by reading the Organon by Samuel Hahnemann and everything else will become clear.

It depends on the strength of the vital force of each person and the skill of the homeopath.

Any really good homeopath could help people regardless of the disease name.

Now my answer is probably going to cause anger among some, but I just get very very tired and frustrated with all of the 'this remedy for that disease' I keep hearing.

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Shirley Reischman

Suggest some useful cancer homeopathic medicine which have good clinical results after trial.(masood)

Carbo Animalis
Cancer of the breast with burning , drawing pains through chest. Cancer of the uterus, glands of stony hardness. Buboes

Carcinosinum:
Suidal tendency and cancer diathesis. Anaemia acute pernicious, thirstless, wasting.

Castoreum:
Hysterical individual; antisycotic, cured pedunculated vegetation around the anus, few drops of the blood escape from the uterus with sort of utrine tenesmus.

Chelidonium
Bruised, aching pain at the interior angel of the right scapula. The dirty yellow complexion produced by chelidinium with other signs of cachexia, strongly suggest cancer

Conium Maculatum
Cancer with glandular enlargment and diminution of the senses. Dizziness is aggravated by moving the head sideawys and when lying down.

Sabadilla
Sore throat with a sensation of lump in the throat and a constant necessity to swallow.

Samucus Nigra
Oedema, especially of legs, instep, and feet. Obstruction of nose.

Scirrhinum
A tremendous sinking at navel. Dr Burnett useed scirrhinum in breast tumor

Secale Cornutum
Haematuria, bloody urine, albuminous urine, thick black blood.

Recommend some sites having info on cancer treatment by homeopathy.(masood)

http://www.cancerlinks.com/homeopathy.html

http://www.heall.com/body/altmed/tre...atscancer.html

http://www.homeopathy.ca/courses_3.html

http://www.cancure.org/homeopathy.htm

http://bringhealth.com/homeopathic_m...es_cancer.html

http://www.ed-x.com/courselistings/c...sp?SubCatID=41


What is the curablity rate of cancer in homeopathy?(masood)

If the patient has been diagnosed at early stage then the chance of recovery is 50 % else zero

Recommend some doctors having good background on treating cancer patients with homeopathy.(masood)

http://www.medical-library.net/sites...of_cancer.html

http://cancer122.50megs.com/custom.html

http://www.ralphmoss.com/html/homeopathy.shtml

If you want to treat cancer with allopathy and homeopathy then goto www.drramakrishnan.com/cancer.html

Mr Administrator,

If you have a penny's worth of respect for health and responsibility for what effects your board project is having,
Then remove that boy's post AT ONCE !

Don't avoid the issue, don't talk around it , finally do stop dangerous **** that you have unfortunately and unintentionally facilitated, made to happen.
And prevent it from EVER happen again.
DO !

[ 13. May 2003, 16:40: Message edited by: panthera-non-onca ]

panthra,

Masood asked some questions and I responded with great care and full professional deeds. What is your objection? Are you interested to remove my post or you are talking about masood post?

Your first post in reply of masood starting thread is total breech of rules. You annoyed him/her by replying in rude behaviour. You did not pay respect to masood post.

O.K. if in administrator's opinion my reply to masood's post was not appropriate and your reply was genuine than I have no objection.

Cool down and have a smile.

Thank you Shirley and Panthera!!

Wonder when we're going to stop seeing these stupid, useless, harmful posts asking for routine prescriptions.

I think we should all just respond to these posts with: "Read the Organon of Medicine. It's all in there".

I think people who don't "get" this really just want to anger participants and mislead the desperate who come here to learn about their possibilities. I'd love to see Jon take a stand against these kinds of irresponsible posters! But since he isn't, responding with "read the organon, already" is what WE can do.

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...and deliverance has many faces<br />but grace<br />is an aquaintance of mine

I disagree with divina . everything is not written in organon. Organon was written two hundred years ago. Time has chaned, thoughts have changed, atmosphere has changed, body chemistry has changed and even priciples and method of prescribing and treating diseases have also changed.

This discussion board is not meant for exclusively for promoting your humoured and old traditional ideas, which have no importance to modern homeopaths like Dr. George Vithoulkas and Sankaran. Some time you says one point in one thread and when you don't find answer of another similar type of question then you use to contradict your reply in other thread.

Every body should be allowed to say his her point of view with respect. Don't call Jon. He is busy man. I don't think masood's questions are illogical. If you dislike these kind of questions then simpley stay back and don't enter.

There is a huge difference between a regular student of homeopathy and casual (attending class at week end). You done your three year diploma as a casual student. You were not being offer to study physics, chemistry, zoolgy, botany, physiolgoy, anatomy and embrology for your course. I also visited canada. I spent my whole life in travelling and studying homeopathy. I closely observed homeopathy practically. Recently I visited Norway, Austria (attending seminar) and Holand. If you are not understanding this point then why the member should be blamed?

I refered two cancer patients to Dr. Rama those who consulted me online. They were using steriods recommended by their doctors. They consulted to Dr. Rama and he suggested to keep on using the same steriod till you get response from his prescribed homeo medicine. I know he did not commit any crime at that time as getting rid of steriod immediatly could cause harm to patients.

Dr. Rama is also mentioned about the use of allopathic medicine in conjunction with homeopathy at his personal site

HE USED THE WORD "OFTEN". I KNOW YOU KNOW THE MEANING OF OFTEN. OFTEN MEANS FREQUENT USE. HE ALREADY STATED AT HIS WEB SITE TOO THAT AS CANCER PATIENTS ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO TREAT SO IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO IMMEDIATLY REMOVE STERIOD DRUGS FROM THE PATIENT.

THE BEST WAY IS TO TAPER DOWN SLOWLY AND THEN PUT THE PATIENT ENTIRELY ON HOMEOPATHIC MEDICINE.

Why are you assuming so much about Dr. Rama when you haven't seen him practicing. I fully support his method of treating patient.

I guess it won't hurt if I jump in here. Cancer is a very big topic that takes a very experienced homeopath to manage. There is no remedy or remedies for cancer per se. If a cancer patient comes to see a homeopath, the first remedy he might give is a remedy for the effect of the bad news! The person was fine, leading a normal life, went for an annual mammogram, and was told she had cancer. Now she's anorexic, sleep-deprived, anxiety ridden....This state is the first state that has to be treated; it is not time yet for a cancer remedy. This state of "bad news" is now the most serious threat to health.

Another patient comes to see a homeopath who is a wreck from chemo and radiation--emaciated, anorexic, etc. The first prescription has to be aimed at this poisoning before a "cancer remedy" can be given.

Another patient is in pain from the cancer. The pain is causing sleeplessness anorexia and despair. The first prescription, therefore, is for pain. The case of the pain needs to be taken:
the location, the sensation, the modalities....
Burning pains, better heat: Arsenicum. You get the pain under control, then you can find a "cancer remedy".

I'm just trying to paint a picture in the hopes of showing that homeopaths do things differently than "regular doctors". It's something that can't be translated directly to standard medical practice; you can't be non-conversant in homeopathy and expect to be able to use homeopathic remedies. If you try to give "the cancer remedy" while someone's in an Ignatia state from the bad news, it won't work! You have to clear out the Ignatia state; this is why only a well-trained homeopath can do this.

Snoopy