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Old 13th May 2003, 06:58 PM
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Believe me these people haven't work in the hospitals and not seen cancer patient themselves. They are internet homeopaths.

The cancer pain is the worst pain of the world, at that stage a cancer patient demand poison injection from the doctor. I have seen such patients in huge number.


Cancer patients think about to suicide. No medicine act that time? Homeopathy? is for beyond to treat or manage that condition. Doctors generally put them on steriod as they have no choice either to fulfil the desire of the patient or manage the condition with high potency analgesic drugse so that patient can spend his/her rest of the life in calm.

I have seen many many homeopaths treating cancer patients with homeopathy and allopathy succesfully. For analgesic treatment they use allopathy and for treating cancer they use homeopathy.
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Oh, Hi Shirley, I didn't see you standing there.

Speaking of allopathic heavy-duty pain killers, they're great in the beginning, til they cause the liver to become toxic, then the patient becomes sick from the pain medicine and can no longer take it! What then? Just another example of how ill-conceived modern medicine's cancer protocol is.

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What do you mean you didn't see me standing there? You know I'm always watching you!
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Old 14th May 2003, 03:58 AM
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Uh...in that case Shirley, I suggest you take a high potency of Lachesis and...I think I hear the cats calling you!

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Old 14th May 2003, 05:40 AM
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Panthera-non-onca Divina

I have no idea what are you talking and to whom you are talking. I am visiting this board after some time. I am really confuesed. What I have done by asking these questions. I was not expecting such a RASH reply from honourable members of this bb. I think there is some serious confusion going on about me among members. If I have done wrong by putting this poster then let me know I will remove myself, for this you don't have to call Jonh.
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Old 14th May 2003, 05:47 AM
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Masood,
I don't think it's anything personal. It's just that if you look at the several open threads on cancer treatment, you'll see a lot of nonsense. Also on a number of threads there has been a lot of talk of prescribing remedies based on specific disease names. People need to understand homeopathic philosophy. They need to read The Organon and quit thinking allopathically. It just gets very frustrating to see over and over again the allopathic thinking by people calling themselves homeopaths.
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I would like to add a couple of things based on my experience of cancer.

The pain it inflicts is much worse than anyone can imagine. Only those who have seen a cancer patient in advanced stages know, all others just stay quiet.

I am fed up of hearing the **** about a system of treatment be it homeopathy or else, a living being when suffering doesn't give a damn about what system of treatment is it as long as it provides relief from the excruciating pain of cancer. As health professionals the prime responsiblity is to cure or treat.

Regarding Dr. AUR (Ramakrishnan) he is probably the wisest of homeopaths around who recognizes the fact that patients need relief and don't care whether it is coming form a combination or homeopathy alone.

I think Dr. Weil (www.drweil.com) the guru of integrative medicine has been able to hit the bulls eye. The bottom line in cancer and other serious diseases is: use whatever method of treatment provides relief and cure.

For non life threatening ailements, keep experimenting with homeopathic remedies as you can afford to do that. I use the word experiment as almost always the homeopaths have a second or third remedy ready in case their first one doesn't work. This trial and error thing provides me with the proof that homeopathy probably needs another 200-300 years to develop to the point where homeopaths can prescribe with greater accuracy.

Regarding Masood's question, I am amazed that he still misses the point. Masood, the harsh reply you got was because of the way you put your questions. Maybe English is not one of your strong suites and you un-knowingly used it in a way that really infuriates those whose first language is English. Anyway. By now you must have gotten the answers to your questions.
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I just received the following p/m message from masood on this running issue. I asked few questions to him and I hope he will not mind to read my reply on this board.

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Yes! I confess that English is not my primary language. [img]redface.gif[/img] But I disagree with this sagacity that query was not clear just due to dreadful English grasp / conversation, no not at all.

The questions are still very much clear and have no link with English language dilemma. The point is, I was not aware of the past state of this board and also was not aware of the fact that members have been suffered with mental torture. But when respectable members like Divina and Panthera and ever green and ever lasting polite lady Shirley put me on their toes then it was a devastating thing for me. [img]redface.gif[/img] I was so demoralized that I decided not to appear again. Now I can grasp that what was happened to me…


Shaukat Khanum Cancer Hospital (founded by Ex-Captain of Pakistan Cricket Team Imran Khan) which is one of the leading hospital in Asia in cancer treatment. The hospital management wants to start homeopathic section. If you recall your memory then you will come to know that a member on this board (I think it was MAS, if I am not forgetting, who met with Imran Khan and requested him to start homeopathic department) who requested to members to send supporting emails to Shaukat Khanum Hospital to start homeopathic section in the hospital in favour of homeopathy.


I am living in Lahore near to that hospital. An organization requested me to provide data about the good will status of homeopathy in the field of cancer. So that organization convince them to start homeopathic section in the hospital. My plan was to provide all-inclusive detail to hospital management in favour of homeopathy, so that they could develop confidence over homeopathy in spending money.

As you know all the doctors working in that hospital are doing allopathy. Taking favour from them is very difficult job. They do not support and like homeopathy as they are not attentive to homeopathic miracles. My idea was to convince hospital administration about that work which was done on cancer in the field of homeopathy. I was interested to provide them facts sheets. My plan was to inform them such and such doctors are already working in this field. This is not a new field.

If I was wrong in asking that subject then I will again say sorry. But again like to request you to provide detail info where work has been done or carrying on in the field of homeopathy, as I stated in my first post. Could you please do my favour.

I was never being rude to anyone in the past then why this rude behaviour with me? If some members have created bad impression of Pakistan then what is my fault. What I have done? All fingers are not equal.

I will certainly appreciate any input in this direction irrespective of the fact that who is the help provider. I thank you to Secret Agent for his/her good turn and help.
I agree it is very difficult to manage cancer patient alone with homeopathy, even in first aid cases, patients do not take risk to visit homeopathic clinic. My question is why incurable diseases are coming in share of homeopathy. When other systems fail then people try for homeopathy. They must consult us for their common ailments. Why do we want to treat cancer with homeopathy by force, if homeopathy has less hope then other system has no hope except hurtful chemotherapy etc

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Old 14th May 2003, 10:33 AM
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Please,

reccomend ways to prevent the disease!

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Mr. Masood,

Don’t loose your heart. Keep working on. You will reach your target. Let's start from here www.cancer.org
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