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Old 23rd April 2003, 10:29 PM
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OK, I thought about it, Sankaran is right.

Here's what I would do. This doesn't sound like an acute case, so I would give, in water, with succussions before each dose, either Phos. 6C three times a day, or Phos. 12C once a day with the following warning:

If there's a striking improvement, or aggravation, or the appearance of new symptoms,
or return of old symptoms, stop the remedy.
In the case of an aggravation, an amelioration may follow. In that case, if there is a relapse, resume the remedy, but scale back the repetitions.

Give the remedy at least 2 weeks before giving up on it. It might even take a month, though I usually see results sooner.

Keep us up to date.

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Old 23rd April 2003, 10:33 PM
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We were posting at the same time. Yes, Carol, you forgot to mention she had fibromyalgia!
OK, how does that fit into all of this? Is it the result of grief like you said? Or--what, what could it be?

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Old 23rd April 2003, 10:41 PM
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Carol,

How does the fibromyalgia manifest itself? What's the nature of the pains--the sensations?
Do they migrate, come and go suddenly/gradually, burn, radiate and so forth? What makes it better or worse? Which muscles are affected? How severe is it?

So, could you make a time-line for us, so we'll know what came first and what may have caused what? Even so, this still sounds rather like Phos.

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Old 24th April 2003, 04:27 AM
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Tried to use the rubrics Hans' posted but don't have but the Bogar-Boenninghausen. I think the results can't be duplicated if not using the edition he recomends. Have tried it other times when Hans posted hints but never with success.

My attempt yeilded:

Lower extremities; FOOT (64) : ARN., ARS., BELL., LYC., PULS., SEP., SIL., acon., bar-c., bry., calc., caust., graph., kali-c., nat-c., nux-v., phos., rhod., rhus-t., stann., stront-c., sulph., alum., am-c., ambr., anac., ang., asaf., aur., camph., canth., caps., carb-an., carb-v., cham., chin., cocc., coff., con., ferr., hep., ign., kreos., laur., led., mag-m., merc., mur-ac., nat-m., nit-ac., olnd., petr., ph-ac., plat., plb., ruta, sars., sec., stram., sul-ac., thuj., verat., verb., zinc.

Lower extremities; Numbness; Foot (27) : Caust., Nux-v., ph-ac., acon., am-c., ambr., ang., ant-c., arg., arn., ars., asar., bry., cham., cocc., con., graph., kali-bi., merc., op., phos., plat., plb., rhus-t., sec., stront-c., thuj.

Lower extremities; Deadness; Foot (11) : Ant-c., Calc., Coff., Nux-v., Sec., asar., phos., plb., puls., rhus-t., sil.

Generalities; AGG; Pressure; external (94) : AGAR., BAR-C., CINA, HEP., IOD., LYC., SIL., Ang., Calad., Canth., Caps., Carb-v., Guai., Lach., Mag-c., Merc-c., Nat-m., Nit-ac., Olnd., Plat., Ran-b., Ran-s., Ruta, Sel., Sep., Spong., Teucr., Valer., Verb., acon., ant-c., arg., calc., carb-an., cupr., dros., fl-ac., hyos., led., merc., mez., mosch., phos., sabad., sabin., samb., sars., stram., alum., am-c., am-m., ambr., anac., arn., ars., asaf., bell., bism., bor., bov., bry., camph., caust., chin., coloc., dig., dulc., hell., ign., ip., kali-c., kali-n., laur., mag-m., mang., meny., mur-ac., nat-c., nux-m., nux-v., ph-ac., phyt., puls., rhus-t., seneg., spig., stann., staph., stront-c., sul-ac., sulph., thuj., verat., zinc.

Generalities; Numbness (Compare Insensibility) (2) : ACON., GRAPH.

Generalities; Deadness of single parts (Compare Asleep feeling) (46) : SEC., Acon., Agar., Bar-c., Calc., Nux-v., Rhus-t., am-m., ant-c., ant-t., chel., con., graph., lyc., merc., nat-m., phos., puls., sulph., thuj., zinc., ambr., ang., asar., bry., bufo, canth., caust., chin., cic., coff., cupr., cycl., euph., hep., kreos., mur-ac., naja, nat-c., nit-ac., par., ph-ac., samb., sil., stann., verat.
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I don't know if Hans uses rubrics from Generals or from Extremities for "numbness" or "deadness" so can't determine what he would feel the correct remedy.

However, interesting how high Acon is under Generals, Numbness. It actually came out on top of my above use of too many overlapping rubrics tied with Nux V. Have been reading about Dirk Hamer Syndrome, that cancer and other such diseases are results of shock, unresolved. If so maybe it wouldn't be such a strange idea, Acon, after all, if this woman developed fibromyalgia following the impact of the shock of possible loss of her husband? Seems a stretch since he didn't die but she may be left with the fear? Sorry for the babble!
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Old 24th April 2003, 04:36 AM
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Boy, gpm, you did a lot of work! Well, with the addition of fibromyalgia, I want to change my vote to Carcinosin. Carc. is listed in Murphy's MM for fibromyalgia, plus, her story and her symptoms are not inconsistent with carc., which also has growths, as you can imagine. So, that would be my pick at this point. Carc and Phos are often mistaken for each other; very hard to differentiate.

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So does that mean you don't want the answers to those questions about her fibro....Should I ask her if she likes to dance?
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Why not take the case in an orderly fashion as adviced in the Organon first, and then discuss possible remedies?

In Homeopathy we don't fit the person into the remedy, by having a remedy in mind nad then go back and ask more leading questions.

c- ore X- Potencies in homeopathy are not repeated in exactly the same potency in short intervals. this is rather like dosing, which do the allopaths.

Homeopathic remedies are curative not by their first action on the liveforce, but by the liveforce's reaction to the artificial disease.

This means, that the liveforce has to be given the time to withdraw the symptoms uninterupted by further doses of exactly the same medicine.
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Old 24th April 2003, 11:03 AM
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Pain like getting the flu..aching all over. I can't answer the other questions until maybe later tonight or tommorow. She has out of town guest.
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Old 24th April 2003, 04:04 PM
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I need a remedy. I'm getting really depressed.
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Old 24th April 2003, 05:29 PM
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Sorry to keep you waiting, Carol.

Well, the description of her house--spotless and a work of art, and loving thunderstorms, and not being able to confront other people...these three alone, plus the history of childhood oppression, all combine to make a convincing case for carc. Plus, you have the fibromyalgia which is more suited to carc. than phos, in my opinion.

I once had a case of allergic asthma, which, again, was a difficult decision between carc and phos. The patient said he hated clutter! We gave him carc. 9C twice a day and he improved. Then he got a cold. The cold was an easy phos. case so we gave him phos 30C and he said he felt great! Fantastic! So, after the cold we switched him to phos. daily--I don't remember the potency right off, but he did great after that.

So, you might call them complementary remedies, you might say that if you start with one the other will finish the case, but, these are the 2 remedies I see; obviously, carc. is a deeper remedy, has deeper pathology, and they say you have to aim your remedy at the worst thing.

The etiology for carc. is: long-term childhood oppression, emotional shocks, grief, sleep loss from nursing loved ones, overwork, humiliation, insomnia.

Her perfectionism and sympathy for others are confirmatories as well.

Still, as I said before, surgical removal of the cyst with the addition of calendula 200C after the surgery, which would require repetition, I'm sure, along with hypericum and arnica, phos. for the nausea from the anesthesia...and I think she'd do well, assuming we can't get a constitutional remedy to address the problem of the cyst.

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