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Old 1st April 2003, 07:15 PM
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Pannak lal how simple you are I really love you. You are great, great and great admiting openly. This credit goes to Dr. MAS who is saying for many years at this forum that homeopaths have different approaches when they want to suggest or discuss on the net they think differently and when they do practice they do not follow the rules. They have different philosophy for discussion and practically they are doing differently. Today you confirmed it. Do you remember I said on this forum that I left the classical pathy The reason was so many attacks were done on me and I had no replies.

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I believe name 'hompath' itself is sufficient.Nowadays many people claim themself classical orally and doing all the unclassical things practically.You can see this by reading various posts old and new here itself.So I like the name 'hompath'
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Old 1st April 2003, 07:40 PM
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During the time of epileptic attack,you should not give similimum.The time of administration is important.It may be dangerous some times.You should give it only during the decline period of attack.It clearly written in the organon(intermittant diseases).It is applicable in the case of epilepsy also.
If you go to the thread "There is no rule for prescribing remedies by Dr. MAS" (just like that) then you will find that he has already mentioned about this rule which you are admiting here for the first time. He gave the example of scarlet fever in which Hahnemann had given belladonna without taking symptoms to healthy and unhealthy individuals without taking entire case.

I know that Dr. pannak lal has served as medical officer and he knows much better how to treat dieing patients depending upon entirely with the help of homepathy. It is very difficult. Patient has no interest with our philosophy. They need cure.

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During the time of epileptic attack,you should not give similimum.
By saying so totality concept also goes wrong. I know that where totality concept is preferable. At which stage we have to follow totality concept. In each case totality is not necessary. Belive me without following totality I have seen good result by using single remedy when selected with care on one symptom.

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Old 1st April 2003, 07:41 PM
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Hi Pannakkal,
Bell was given as it fit the acute symptoms; if indeed it was by chance similimum I wasn't aware; (feeling out of my depth here). Your other comment about administering at decline of attack I don't really understand as the longer the siezure the more probable of damage. In my case the kitten was having rapid siezures, he was in a state of delerium in between. It had many small siezures before he was given a remedy and then at the sign of relapse the potency increased in increments (however the remedy was administered approx every 12 hours or so) -the other kitten was practically comatose (kept on valium). The homeopathically treated kitten suffered no long term neurological damage; the allopathically treated one did.
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Old 1st April 2003, 07:51 PM
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In acute case we mostly rely on extra ordinary symptom and find the remedy which covers that peculiar or extra ordinary symptom so if accidently that remedy is also similimum then it is a good sign. I agree with Pannak lal in this case similimum was not necessary but if you could able to find it then it is good sign.

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Certainly, I give certainly that the homeopath can wait for the good moment to medicate. In the exact moment of the epileptic crisis, it should not medicate with any remedy, the motive is the risk of an aggravation, which can been all the same with the simillimum, and with any suppressing medicine, since they influence factors, as the sensibility of the subject, etc. An epileptic, hard crisis a minute, it is necessary to allow by force vital that one should re-organize before giving no remedy. A crisis of asthma, nevertheless, that can last hours, it is possible to to medicate perfectly with the simillimum. It is necessary to evaluate the concrete case, alone the homeopath in the moment knows, or must know what decision to take. The topic was what remedy for what crisis, and I support that the simillimum is the only remedy capable of restoring the health of a rapid, soft and lasting form.
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I have no doubt in my mind that similimum has the power to cure the patient but finding the exact method to reach that similimum is more important then finding the similimum and which method is to selected for finding suitable remedy for the patient depends upon the running condition of the patient. Finding of similimum in each case is not necessary some time you loose the chance when the patient has no time in the cases of emergency. even then if you waste time in finding the similimum then you actually does crime.

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I am confused because now the topic seems to be whether to treat acute symptoms or waste time finding similimum? Help me out here, would you not treat a sudden attack based on the symptoms present and then go back, take the full case and attempt to find the remedy that will cure?
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Hi Me again

What is acute condtion and why not to treat acute with homeopathy

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I believe that it is a bit absurd not to want to give the simillimum, the simillimum is always the ideal one, which happens is that not always we are going to know it or to be able to find it. But to assure that must not devote the simillimum it is a bit surprising. Because then, we have to insure of that the remedy that is given should not be the simillimum? I find it absurd.
A remedy that he cure, it is the acute or chronic picture, it is all the same, it is a remedy that has similarity with our patient. If the similarity is partial, he will recover partially to the patient, if the similarity is total, will treat it in the totality. When it is not necessary to to medicate, (with nothing) it is in a critical situation since it is an epileptic fit that has a duration of a minute and is not worth risking to an aggravation. It is not necessary to medicate in this instant. Simply it is more prudent to expect this minute and to medicate with the remedy that we see more similar, similar the present picture and our patient. If this remedy is the simillimum, it will be perfect, because he will recover from soft, rapid and lasting form, and if it is similar, at the time he will relieve probably or will suppress, but it will not do the complete cure that does the simillimum.
We suppose that we have a patient whose simillimum already we know: it does an assault of epilepsy, we are going to see it and give him his simillimum, we are going to give what another remedy? The simillimum is the one that better is going to act, fewer aggressor, the appropriate one. Now we suppose that we do not know the simillimum of this patient, and it does an epileptic fit to us, we will try to give him the remedy of similarity of what we see, we do not prune a picture to invent ourselves, and what we see is to our patient in an epileptic picture. We will give him the remedy, so soon as it is possible, on having finished the minute of the epileptic crisis. If we are lucky of that the remedy is the simillimum, he will recover wonderfully, if not, again, we will relieve it or will suppress it, but there is no another thing, if the homeopathy recovers is because there is similarity, without similarity, there is no response.
We speak on the remedies simillimum and others ¿? As if the man was two separated parts, as if at the moment, on having done the acute picture, the subject was stopping being it and it was another thing. The patient is one, it is rightly the marvel of the homeopathy, which can see it, the totality of the patient, his implication to all the levels, the commitment of the mental thing and the physical thing and quite he when it falls ill. Why to apply these divisions at the moment of the treatment?
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aph-236,237 you can see the explanation.This is applicable in epilepsy also.
If we give exact similimum just before or during the peak period,there is every chance of risk.Because some times the patient cannot bear homoeopathic aggravation as well as the disease state together.So the best time for application of medicine is the declining period.

krista,
In case of status epilepticus you mentioned there are medine suited to that state.

In epilepsy(asthma etc) during acute phases we have to find acute medicine suitable to that state.We can follow with anti psoric or anti miasmatic medicines as most cases are temperorry out burst of latent psora.
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