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Old 16th March 2003, 05:26 PM
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The case of your child is not of thread worm ,but of Cutaneous larvae migrans .Here what happened is the larvae of the worms lost its normal route and wander here and there.The reason may be;

1)Immunity of the person which prevents the normal progression of the life cycle,

2)Infection from non human type of species which usually infect dogs,cats etc.When they accidently enter in to the human system ,they cannot progress to its normal course and there by wander here and there.

Threadworm (pinworms) will not cause this.Usually it is caused by
Non human species of hookworm(Ancylostoma brazilience),Strongyloids stercoralis,Ganthostomiasis,Loa loa,Dirofilaria,Fasciola etc etc.

So most probably it will go by itself,as the worm cannot complete its life cycle it retur to the intestine and go by stool or perish.
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Old 16th March 2003, 06:45 PM
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Garlic.
I've seen this work well to rid the body of worms. Although, it is not a cure!

In the case of pinworms (I've seen this work!) -- one can place a few cloves of garlic (fresh) into a small jar of petroleum jelly (vasoline). Making sure the garlic is completely covered by the jelly. Apply a bit of the jelly (it smells strongly of garlic now) to the anus every night when going to bed. The worms cannot relay eggs -- and suffocate. They also hate garlic!

Of course, this does not address the susceptibility of the child (to be a good host for the worms) --- but it's a fairly harmless measure that can be taken to get rid of the worms in the meantime.

I would not take a remedy that is specific for the worms (only) --- I would seek out a homeopath to have the case be taken properly(!!) --- otherwise you risk suppression which can turn out to be far more dangerous than parasites!
Good luck. Austin.

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Old 16th March 2003, 07:12 PM
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Thanks for your input everyone.
This is NOT pinworm. He passed a worm the other night (it is about 3 to 4 inches in length and thin as a thread.) He also passed what looked like fat rice -- although he hadn't eaten anything that looks like that--(maybe larva?) I have collected the worm in a jar to take to allopathic doc tomorrow am. Hopefully they will send it to the lab to determine exactly what it is, although I do not have that much faith in them.

Pannakkal, I think you may be correct. We did visit the zoo recently (4 to 5 weeks ago) and my son got quite dirty there. I suspect he may have acquired this infection there. However, we live in Florida and there are quite a few critters that enjoy our mild climate. It was about 2 weeks ago when he had the transient linear welts, low grade fever and very irritable. Now he only complains that his bottom is tender (it looks ok to me) and he says OUCH! now and then for no apparent reason. His head sweat severely when he slept a couple weeks ago and that has decreased significantly. His arms and legs seemed to be hurting, but that has improved as well. Maybe I should wait and see what happens. Or maybe a prophylaxis deworming would be in order.
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Klaf, I understand your son doesn't have pinworms.
I was just giving an alternative to one-remedy-for-one-aspect-of-your-son's-case. His case wasn't taken --- you were just given remedy suggestions based on -- worms. That isn't enough to prescribe on, imo -- because he is having these others symptoms.

Garlic should be a good alternative, as I posted above. I was just saying it worked with pinworms from my experience. I see no reason why it shouldn't work with these type of worms either. I've also seen the rice-like larva come out in a child's bath -- and in the toilet (after 'going') -- in the same child that had the pinworms (different occasion tho).

Anyhow, try the garlic in the vaseline --- and watch out for any other symptoms like tummy aches, etc --- it's usually an indication if they worms are still lurking (although not always)....

Can you get him to a local homeopath?
If not, make sure whomever takes the case on, actually takes a full case so you can get the best care available for your son.
Best of luck to you. Austin
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PS Pannakal may be right about what type of larva it is....read his post again.

And, let us know if the docs do manage to find out what kind of worm it is. Have you looked on the net to see if you can find out - by doing a search? Maybe you could compare it to photos online?
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Check out www.curezone.com and look at the pics there. Also, they have a discussion forum regarding parasites, worms etc. mayb e someone can offer some advice there.

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I'm sorry, I thought it was definitely a thread worm. It is important to know exactly what kind of worm it is, as certain remedies have an affinity for certain parasites; though Karen did say that the description in Boericke for Teucrium matched her son's symptoms.

It's not so much that we need the constitutional remedy; we need to know how he's different from his normal self, since the worm infestation; because the worms come from the external environment (playing in the soil, putting the fingers in the mouth) not from the mental/emotional soil, as it were. It's like, a person steps on a rusty nail and develops symptoms of swelling, heat, etc. How would the constitutional remedy be relevant here? I know there are those who say that the const. remedy will treat every condition, but most of the homeopaths I've heard on this subject don't agree, such as Judyth Reichenberg-Ullman, Robert Ullman, Timothy Dooley and others.

So, I would say, when we know exactly what the worm is, we'll then want to know about the specific symptoms the child has and hopefully we can put the 2 together and see what we come up with.

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For the past 200 years homoeopathic remedies known to cure and prevent threadworm infestations are:

Acon, Alum, Ambr, ASAR. CALC, CHIN, CINA, Colch, Croc, Dig, FERR, Graph, hyos, IGN, Kali-c, Mag-c, MAR, Merc, Nat-c, Nux-m, NUX-V, Petr, Phos, PLAT, Rhus, Sabad, Sabin, SCILL. Sep, SIL, SPIG, SPONG, SULPH, Valer, Zinc.

Rubrics like this one are not intended to be used as specifics for getting rid of a worm or any specific kind of parasite. The selection of the remedy is still based on the distinguishing features in the person who has (had) the worm. The infestation affects their whole constitution, not just their bum. Therefore, the most important symptoms on which to base a prescription will be qualifying modalities found in areas such as joint pains; abdominal discomfort; odour, frequency and consistency of stool; changes in appetite, thirst; sweats; itching; disruption in sleep patterns; and mood alterations. Concomitant symptoms may be found anywhere in the case which lead to the correct prescription. This will result in eradicating the worm infestation, restoring health, and most importantly, reducing the risk for future infections. It is not simply a matter of killing off the worm and larvae. It is the child who is ill because of the effects of infestation, treat the symptoms as the child expresses them. Not simply Teucrium = threadworms. If Teucrium does address the symptom similarity as expressed by the child then the child's whole constitution needs Teucrium, and Teucrium will be their constitutional remedy until at some later stage a new symptom picture emerges.
The worm can go find somewhere else to live or complete its life cycle. RIP.
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Agreed, if just going after the worm you would have better luck treating allopathically after positively identifying the type of worm. I think one needs to look at the child's susceptibility to worms and entire symptom picture. If the approach discussed here were to actually work, we would never have to use a commercial wormer at the shelter, but it doesn't.

Small "grains of rice" this explains what we frequently see in our cats as tapeworm, (I'm not sure stage of larva would be in the bowel? -don't know forsure) although the worms themself are more in diameter of a piece of string and flat not round.
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Hi Everyone,
I took my son and the "worm" to the doc's this am, got the script, and took it to the lab. Hopefully I will soon find out exactly what it is, though it has been in vinegar for 3 days, so I hope that it is still intact enough to identify. It is white, thin as a thread, and about 3 to 4 inches long. It was expelled in his diaper, with much gas, right after his bath, by itself--with no bm. I am glad to report that he is much better than he was two weeks ago, so maybe it will soon run its course on its own.
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