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Old 11th March 2003, 04:36 PM
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I know you all are going to say for me to get to another homeopath quick, but I'm scared to unless I understand what's happening to me. How do I trust another homeopath after two horrible experiences with practitioners who are seasoned and have excellent reputations?

I seem to be unable to tolerate my thyroid medication anymore. I'm having a constant migraine and other symptoms of thyroiditis and I've already cut back my dose once over the weekend. I had a bit of relief for one day and then it all started again yesterday. Terrible headache, tachycardia, shortness of breath, and anxiety. I'm taking the maximum dose of motrin and it's barely taking the edge off. I'm afraid I just can't take my thyroid medication anymore.

The good news is that I got a full set of thyroid labs done yesterday after much complaining to my HMO. So at least I'll have some info about what's going on.

But my question is this. If the carc is making me intolerant to my medication, does that mean I don't need medication anymore? What would happen if I stopped taking it altogether? I'm waiting for my endocrinologist's office to call me with a cancellation because he's booked up for awhile. But in the meantime, I'm not sure I can take the meds any longer. Is it possible that if I stopped the meds, my thyroid would be working on its own? Is it possible I'm cured of the disease and the medication is a big overdose now? Or am I proving the carc, heaven forbid?

Please help me sort through this because I'm so scared, and I vacillate between hating homeopathy and hoping it's actually producing the cure I took it for.

Shirl

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Old 11th March 2003, 06:43 PM
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Shirl - I am so sorry for you and understand your suffering. I wish I had some great words of wisdom for you but all I can say is that for your condition I would really try to see Dr Leela as she has an amazing medical mind and also is very cautious in her prescribing.

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Old 11th March 2003, 08:49 PM
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Shirl:

Hopefully the tests that you are having done will shed some light on your current situation and lead to a quick resolution. I am well aware of what must being going through your mind wrt homeopathy. I hope the homeopathy is working and you will soon be free of your medication.

I have wanted to post some of my thoughts on your previous thread but I decided not to. I did not want to distract from the task at hand which is trying to help you through this crisis. The aspect of changing practitioners is a difficult one. It goes against Kent’s advice as discussed in the attached link.

http://www.homeoint.org/books3/kentlect/lect36.htm

I received treatment from the first homeopath I saw for approximately one year. I stopped because my overall health which was stable prior to starting the treatment had deteriorated. After an extensive search I eventually started treatment with another practitioner. Unfortunately after several years of treatment from this practitioner I am no better off. I have not received any homeopathic treatment for over 1 ˝ years but I am seriously considering giving it one more try.

There is one other thing I would like to add that may be of some help. Did this change in your health coincide with having your thyroid prescription refilled? The reason I am asking is because last summer I was contacted by an individual who was suffering from a severe case of hives. I had had a severe case of hives which I quickly remedied after determining the cause and eliminating it. This individual suffered for several months before discovering the cause. The cause was a reaction to the thyroid medication being taken. Even though the medication had been taken for several years without any “problems” the pharmaceutical company for some unknown reason decided to alter the ingredients of the medication and it was this alteration that caused the hives. The individual now gets the medication from overseas where the original formula is still being used. This is just a thought and may be worth looking into.

Good luck, I know how precious good health is.

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Old 12th March 2003, 04:15 PM
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Thanks for the replies.

I've decided to steer clear of homeopathy and go back to acupuncture. There just seems to be too much disagreement on treatment methods and no way to know who is right or wrong until it's too late and you've already invested a lot of $$$ and time, not to mention suffering. Even my co-workers have noticed that I've gotten significantly worse since starting homeopathy, so I'm cutting my losses here and now.

Frostbite, I hope you find the answer to your health problems. Since homeopathy created the mess you're in, perhaps it is the way out of it as well.

Anyway, I just wanted to thank everyone here who has taken the time to answer my posts and offer their help during my two regrettable experiences with homeopathy.

Best wishes,
Shirl
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Old 12th March 2003, 07:01 PM
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What a shame! Its funny though that a bad experience with an allopathic doctor doesn't usually mean the client won't seek treatment elsewhere of another allopath. Still, especially in North America, homeopathy is still heavily lumped into hocuspocus treatments, I guess its not unexpected.
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this is my experience:

over the past app 10 years i consulted six homoeopaths. none of them made significant progress with my case until the last.

this is the sorry state of homoeopathy today, as is also reflected in the journals and on this bb.

what hope has a member of the public of chancing across a homoeopath who knows what s/he is doing? and then of having the confidence in that person to persist as needed, when modern homoeopathy is full of failure stories?
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It would be interesting to me to compare the way they each practiced. Were they all 'classical', but just could not find the right remedy or were some of them non-classical?

As for allopathy, I get patients all the time who have been to a succession of allopathic physicians and continued to get worse. They don't even consider homeopathy until they've been to over a dozen failed allopaths, generalist and specialists. But let a few homeopaths fail and they give up.

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oh Anna
What you say seems so negative but VERY understandable!

Like you I have consulted homeopaths in the past- to not much avail!

The best progress I have ever made is through my own self prescription very recently.( have i committed the ultimate sin ??!)

I sometimes think we make things too complicated when looking for the remedy.
Sometimes when you're too close to something it's difficult to see. If we take a step back and look at the whole picture it can be clearer.

I'm sure Hahnemann never meant it to be so complicated. Some of the posts on this board just leave me cold- so involved and into so much detail (especially on philosophy) !

I'm sorry Shirl that you're giving up on Homeopathy- but hope things work out which ever route you choose.

All the best

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Anna, I get clients all the time who have been to a succession of allopaths, both general practitioners and specialists and continued to get worse. They only consider homeopathy after they've been to a dozen or more allopaths, but if a few homeopaths fail, they chuck it and go back to allopathy.

In Shirl's case, if accupenture has helped, then there is every reason to stay with it.
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"few chronic cases go along kentian lines of "classical cures" with a single remedy. it is not a useful model for most cases, and is ignorant of hahnemann's teaching."

Anna, I think this is a very shortsighted statement.

There are cases that require a single remedy, and then there are cases that require 2-3 remedies, or any number. SOme also need antimiasmatic intercurrents, acutes, etc to make the cases more clear.

Then there are cases that have blocks due to various reasons, adn it takes a lot of time and skill to understand all these ramifications. Besides that we've got patients who are on allopathy, to deal with. PAtients who have lifestyles not conducive to a remedy helping, etc etc.

You seem to sound like that the 10 practitioners worldwide who practice "Hahnemanian" prescribing have a 100% success rate???

I've always believed that the practice of homeoapthy requires a team effort, as each one's experience of individual cases as well as knowledge of remedies has an important place.

Cases that don't do well with one method, will certainly do better with another. Then there are the limitaitions of a homeopath also to consider.
I wish we'd stop bashing one another and demoralising one another, homeoapthy is intensive enough to practice as it is.

As far as I see, its more important to be open to various methods of analysis that work, as individual to a case rather than be fixed on a particular way. Always keep the remedy reponse of the patient in mind.
After all, isn't that we're all about - healing the sick?
Sometimes I wonder if its just more of hanging on to ones philosophies/beliefs or proving to be more superior.

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