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Old 5th March 2003, 03:00 PM
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Dear all,

I am new to this forum, and want to say Hello first of all. Am also relatively new to Homeopathy. I have a question to you. I live in France where the potencies are somhow expressed differently. For example they use CH with a one digit number (ex : CH9).
Can someone explain how to "calculate" from the French to the American (or come to that I guess universal) way of expressing potencies.
Hope this is clear, and many thanks for your replies.
Katharina
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Old 6th March 2003, 03:50 PM
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Hi,
one question.
I wonder if someone was going to answer.
was my question too stupid too answer ? Or do you not know? (care? I do not dare to think).
thank you friends, I would need the info urgenly.
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There was someone on Lyghtforce that answered this at one time, but I can't remember what the answer was. It's not a stupid question. I think it's just that no one is sure what the differences or similarities are.

Julian Winston or Dana Ullman might know.

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Old 6th March 2003, 04:37 PM
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I am just a student but I think I may be able to answer your question.
In France most homeopaths are pluralists. The pluralists will look at the red line symptoms and give you a selection of remedies at a lower potency which have a larger range of coverage and therefore would cover your symptoms. This is not classical homeopathy where one remedy is given at a time.
The CH9 is the same as 9ch.
You should be able to get higher potency but I think the pharmacy would have to order it since it is not common.
Hope this has been some help.
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Thank you Shirley for your reply.

Now in my newness I do not know :
what is Lyghtforce? Another forum I should go to and search??
I have heard of Dana Ullman, because she is writing these books but not of Julian Winston, and are they coming here? Is there a way to contact them???

More stupid questions, I am afraid, but would very much appreciate reply!
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Old 6th March 2003, 05:02 PM
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Hello Jay,
this was very clear, thank you very much.
Do you know why France does not have classical homeopath?
How to find one? I mailed to BOIRON but they did not anwer me.
In the "yellow pages" obviously there is no indication.
I do not want to automedicate really.

thanks again
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Hi Katharine

There are some classical homeopaths in France but they are called Unicistes I believe. One very well known and respected classical homeoapth is Dr Edouard Broussalian. You could do a google search and possibly find out more about him and maybe an email address. He should be able to help you find a classical homeopath in Paris. This french site may be of some help http://www.planete-homeo.org
I am happy to hear that you are not self treating.
Good luck
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Hi,

The "CH" before or after the number simply means the potency (say 9 in your question) "C" indicates it is in the centesimal scale, "H" means made in the manner of Hahnemann (centesimal Hahnemann, using fresh vial each step of potentizing). If the remedy states "CK" it means a C potency made according to Korsakovian method. Korsakoff method uses one vial, pouring out and refilling for each step up the scale. If only says "C", I guess it's open to investigation, however most remedies sold in the US today (other than Borion which is a French company) generally just say "C". "SK" - Skinner method. "F" - Fincke method....etc.
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Lyghtforce is a homeopathic mail list. At Homeopathy Home, click on WWW, then Mailing lists, then Homoepathy Mail List. There is an archive. Julian and Dana (male) are both members. Dana's web page is http://www.homeopathic.com/. Julian is a historian and his web page is http://www.homeopathic.co.nz/JW.htm .
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Hi Anameilike: To seeing if this him uses as help:

There are three scales:
The Centesimal scale Hahnemanniana (CH) that prepares itself of the following form: A drop of dye takes mother in 99 drops of alcohol, three times are shaken and there is obtained the first CH or the first Centesimal Hahnemanniana. Of there a drop takes, 99 drops of alcohol are added, three times are shaken, and we have the second CH. And this way successively diluting a drop in 99 every time, we are obtaining her 1CH, 2CH, 3 CH ... etc.

The second scale is the Korsacoviana. Korsacow discovered that if a flask is filled with 99 drops and later empty, in the flask a drop remains impregnated more or less, then the flask was started filling again, to shake, to throw, to fill, to shake, to throw, etc. Nowadays they are in use revitalizing, a few devices that imitate this procedure, throb, overturn, throb... They do not do it with alcohol but with distilled water, since many liters of water are needed to come to powers a million and more.

The centesimal Hahnemannianas and the Korsacovianas has to be in liquid, that is to say are dinamizaciones in liquid. Of there it is possible to to take a drop and impregnate 500 globules or 700 globules and do 30 Korsacoviana or 30K, or Centesimal Hahnemanniana, but we are doing her of a drop of the dinamizacion. In Spain for example, all the powers are in globules, not in drops, but the dyes that are bought in England, Germany or in other countries, before them going on to globules are done in drops. When you ask for a centesimal dose, it is of going, a CH, until it specifies, they can give him a mixture, that is to say, a dose that belongs to the 1 to 30 Centesimal CH Hahnemanniana, but of 30 to 200 it is done by the method Korsacoviano and of 200 for above, with the revitalizing one, in end, a mixture. The dilution and the continuous sucución is the essence of the Korsacoviana.

Finally there is the LM that are the 50 milesimales, that prepare themselves otherwise, A drop of dye mother is divided in 500 globules, a globule takes, is diluted in 99 drops, of these 99 drops one returns to take a drop, is diluted in 500 globules and there the first one is obtained, that is to say 1 LM. Later another globule takes, is diluted in 99 drops, a drop takes, puts in 500 globules, and 2 LM is obtained. It is like to happen the centesimal one 500 globules, as a more distributed dinamizacion, because of it the great discussion is between the pharmacists homeopáticos of if it is divided in 500 globules or in 500 drops. What we are interested is that the LM theoretically has to come in globules. The LM seems to have fewer aggravations.

Theoretically when you speak about 30 CH it is all the same in what place of the world he asks for her, it should be 30 Centesimal Hahnemanniana, and the same thing for the LM or for the Korsacovianas. In the practice, there are great variety of preparations not trustworthy all, for what it is necessary to assure of the origin.
Finally, in France it is excellent homeopaths unicistas or classic. The AFADH (Association Francaise pour l´Approfondissement de la Doctrine Hahnemannienne); is a good example of it. Regards.
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