My dear Snoopy
I gladly take back what might have come out as criticism towards you as a person. I think discussions about points are viable, and if a senior member, who is in practise, sometimes intervenes with a sharp comment, then he does not do that to annoy anyone, but to just warn from personal experience. and this is sometimes the role of a senior, even personally i don't like it.

so-- without discrediting your school, take things with a pinch of salt, and in doubt-- see if this fits with the rules and principles laid down in the organon whereupon homeopathy rests.

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Hans Weitbrecht
Consultant Homeopath

Just to be a stickler about this:

The article Shirley Reichsman posted is a homeopath's description of how he employed Genus Epidemicus prescribing techniques, which Hahnemann writes about at length in Chronic Diseases.

You have a verified small pox epidemic, its boundaries are defined as limited to specific areas, specific times in history, specific groups of people.

You take the case of SEVERAL of the patients who have the epidemic disease. You can see a pattern: one or two very clear remedy indications. You try to understand the patients' cases as if they were all one case, combining the symptoms. You come up with two, sometimes one if you're lucky, remedy which would fit everyone's case. You can then use that one remedy to treat those who've come down with the disease; and you can also use that remedy on those who are in the epidemic's boundary but haven't caught the disease as a prophylactic.

That's the only time you can use a nosode or any remedy in this way. If there is an epidemic the next year, of the same disease, somewhere else in the world, the process has to be undertaken again; it may be that the remedy which worked in the previous epidemic can be used as a cure and a preventative; but it is also very likely that a different remedy will be necessary.

Now, this is what Will Taylor talks about, when he says that if there is a prevalence of lyme disease in his area, he will take a prophylactic remedy like Ledum. When he wrote that, he was writing about an epidemic he saw that year in Maine, where he lived. Now that he lives on the West coast, if he were to see an epidemic of lyme's disease there, its possible he would have to consider a different prophylactic remedy--something more suitable to the particular epidemic of that time and place. A BIG note here: he doesn't use a remedy made from human tissue that has been affected by the Lyme's disease organism; he uses plain old Ledum, the prophylactic and Genus Epidemicus remedy which fits the epidemic case.

The veterinarian Nosodes schedule I've seen is a very routine type of prescribing, where nosodes for particular vaccine-type diseases are collected and then administered on every animal, regardless of whether or not there is an epidemic. I know lots of people who practice this form of homeopathy feel this is okay to do with people, as well--but there is no justification for this in Homeopathic literature--that is, in Hahnemann's writing. It is a type of isopathy, because this type of practice assumes that you can avoid getting a disease merely by taking a remedy made from human tissues infected by that same disease. The nosode isn't used because it matches the case (as most likely, it doesn't match it at all); it's used because it's made from the same disease.

And that, folks, is not homeopathy.

[ 25. February 2003, 14:35: Message edited by: ChaChaHeels ]

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Good point. I had to research this a bit for a manual I had to put together. It does seem that if a person lives within the boudaries of a verified epidemic, their vital force is affected by it. That's why you can give a prophylaxis even though there are no specific symptoms.

So if there is an outbreak at day care, that is when you can consider a remedy, even though the child does not have any symptoms of the disease.

[ 25. February 2003, 14:17: Message edited by: sreischman ]

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Shirley Reischman

Exactly.

Sometimes the only boundary an epidemic will have is time. Individuals can be affected by the same disease in various parts of the world, all at the same time in history--this can constitute an epidemic, too. You can still take a "collective" case and find the Genus Epidemicus remedy this way.

In fact, I think that's what we do when we ask other homeopaths in other parts of the world what the "flu" looks like where they are this year.

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Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes.<br />C.G.Jung

Just a small message to say that The Mathur's book "Principles of prescribing" is really a book required by the Devon's "School of Homeopathy" and appears in the list IIa under the School's reference # 186 with the price of BP $9.00
I am a student of that School, have the book and I'm handling the Schools list in front of my eyes right now, so...

Well, I really don't like this book too much but...

My best wishes

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Dinis S Luis (DHom)<br />Classical Homeopathy<br />Diplomaed by "The School of Homeopathy", Devon, U.K.

Thank you, Dinis, for validating what I said.

Snoopy

Thanks Dinis,
I receive the newsletters periodically and they are scattered round my place... the quickest one I grabbed was one of the 2001 issues and it was not on that list. But, when I read your post today -- it propelled me to find the latest newsletter which I couldn't locate the other day. I found two - Jan 2002 and August 2002. Yep, it's on list lla now. Austin.

Hi

Seems that the opponents of the remedies as prophylactic got without tongue!
What happens? I'm not defending the use of remedies (nosodes) as prophylactics, because it is very discussible, but I don't like that people make a (false) affirmation to destroy a theory and then when the true is discovered stay in absolute silence.

Remember that even Dr. Ramakrishnan recommends the use of some nosodes as is the case of Carcinosinum as a prophylactic in cases where exist a familiar history of cancer.

Even if it may be not a very good and orthodox form of Homeopathy, I think it deserves to be discussed in this forum.

Your opinion is really very important, but please don't post false information.
Thanks.

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Dinis S Luis (DHom)<br />Classical Homeopathy<br />Diplomaed by "The School of Homeopathy", Devon, U.K.

Dear Members
I want to come back to the question:
&gt;&gt;Homeopathic vaccinations alternative to DPT&lt;&lt;
and further more want to dwell on the question:
Is there such a thing like ‘’homeopathic vaccination’’?

The answer lies in the principles.
If we remember that remedies become homeopathic by their use according to the simile principle, which translates in par.: 50 ORG into: CURE BY SYMPTOM SIMILITUDE, then we know, that any other use than the one specified is: NON- homeopathic.
In the instance of NON-homeopathic use of remedies, they are used ALLOPATHICALLY. Whether these medicines are produced according homeopathic guidelines or not does not decide whether they are HOMEOPATHIC or not. A NON-homeopathic use of remedies in healthy individuals is called a proving.
The damage of wrongly called ,,Homeopathic vaccines’’ can therefore be as big as the damage of normal vaccines.
Any other use of medicines other than the homeopathic one is highly unpredictable, as it mostly relies on theories and allegations.

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Hans Weitbrecht
Consultant Homeopath

Dinis,
What 'false affirmation' are you referring too?

Do you think the original suggestion made was reasonable and responsible advice? THAT was the point in the discussion.