Or, was Euphrasia used in diluted tincture, topically, as eye drops (Eyebright)?

Allen's Index: Euphr, Abdomen: distension: general: diarrhoea, before: during.
Stool, defecation: urging: diarrhoeic.

Vermeulen's Concordant: Eurphr, Rectum,Dysentery. Prolapse ani. Pressure down in anus when sitting. Constipation.

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I had those thoughts as well gpm; and I also did refer to Allen. Hope Megs show up so we can resolve this issue.
PS How is Cancer boy? were you able to conclusively diagnos? Hows he doing?

Kitty had a single dose of euphrasia 30c orally. That was approx 4 days before death. No other remedies, just rescue remedy at the same time as the euphrasia.
Krista your points were all correct - the non-debilitating diarroea was present before euph was given, eyes and diarrhoea both improved after dosing, he was very vital and remained so right up until sudden death (over a few hours while I was at work).
I am saddened to hear of accusations of mismanagement from some other board (where?). Any helpful criticism will be most welcomed by this student homeopath!


[ 20. February 2003, 10:33: Message edited by: MegsNZ ]

Hi Megs, thanks for posting, I'll send you a link privately.

The lastest is that apparently the greatest factor in diarrhea in cats is this order:

1)fear
2)infection
3)vaccines & meds

This is simply wrong when applied to cats. Cats do have episodic bouts of diarrhea from fear, but I've never seen a chronic case -I would put it at #10 or so and I think gpm would agree based on her experiences as well. I would instead suggest the following:

1)infection
2)diet
3)stress
4)system failure/disruption caused by a deeper failure
5)toxins

What lay people fail to understand about felines is that their primary urge is: survival. We know from all sorts of studies that cats HIDE illness, at all costs; their need to self-preservation allows them to keep everything in check (only under extreme stress and already dealing with illness, will the immune system eventually crash and burn). I have worked with so many ferel cats, these cats have had no human contact, they live in structured colonies and really FEAR humans like no other cat. The major difference between them and a scared housecat is their reaction upon confinement. For instance: wild cats will try to appear insignificant and small (don't want to attract attention to themselves)and don't loss control of their bowels under extreme fear (again it would draw attention to them, leave a trackable scent), instead they are constantly on the look out for the opportunity to escape. Your disgruntled house cat on the otherhand will usually fight you fearlessly right up front, they know how to "deal" with unwanted human contact. Its only when (applies to both groups)they think they are going to be killed, that they release or loss control of their bowels & bladder (as is also common after death)in response to fear induce stress. Another senario is stress related diarrhea, whereby espisodes will be triggered by stresses -but its usually an uncontrolled and sudden urge (not found in the litterbox) and subsiquently corrected after the stress is removed.

But I think I'm off topic, as to the kitten, from what Megs wrote he wasn't in the least fearful and in fact he was probably much relieved to find a new "mom" to protect him at an age where he easily could have been murdered and cannibalized by a Tom cat.

I think MOST importantly however, that an important point was missed and that is that the diarrhea was not being treated homeopathically at this point, rather is was REASONABLY suggested (in light of NO bacterial componant -by the way panleuk doesn't actually appear as a visible virus, diagnosis is made upon WBC counts and symptoms; it is not unusual for the stress of the disease to cause GI upset resulting in high concentrating of "bad" but normally occuring bacteria in the GI)that the problem MAY resolve with good dietary practices. And of course the demise of this kitten, in my opinion, was far too short to be contributed to diarrhea anyways. The kitten was eating well during this time and quite frankly for it to dehydrate (I doubt this was cause of death) in 4 hours would suggest more than just diarrhea as the cause.

Hopefully some homeopaths from this board will post their feeling on whether or not a one time dose of euphr 30ch could kill an essentially vital kitten, 4 days after dosing.

Furthermore, I believe to prescribe upon the one symptom of diarrhea would have been fruitless as well, the entire case was needed and we failed to see the urgency in light of the absense of more symptoms that perhaps could have lead to a sound prescription. The abitrarily use of arnica (even though it generally will not road-block any case) upon the assumption that all cats have been frightened or harmed/injured (and that is at the root of their illness), or to give sulph for diarrhea (for the sake of giving something) is not sound and is prescribing dangerously upon assumptions. Again we did not have a full case here, the euphr was given acutely for the eyes (just as arnica might have been given for stress), I fail to see how it alone could have resulted in the death of this kitten.

Thanks Krista for your email and comments, I agree with you. The diarrhoea was never violent, just very mild and occasional, the term "diarrhoea" was used to indicate more frequent, loose liquid stool as opposed to solid. There was never any sign of fear, in fact completely the opposite - very affectionate, lively and interested in all surroundings. Never "weak, debilitated". At the house where I found him, he was curled up next to the labrodor on the back step and all he wanted was human contact(and food)! If there had been no loose stool you would think there was nothing wrong with him. There was absolutely no decline after the remedy was given for nearly 4 days, in fact there was an improvement in the frequency and consistency of diarrhoea, then the sudden decline (which unfortunately I did not witness).

[ 21. February 2003, 11:00: Message edited by: MegsNZ ]