Homoeopaths say, “Cure takes place through the way of similars. All other modes, including allopathy, are suppressive.”

The statement is in conflict with the ground realities. People do recover under allopathy and stay healthy afterwards without any recurrence of the old disease or any untoward after-effect. In some cases, however, the untoward effects following allopathic treatment are very awesome but that may be due to the inability of the physician to properly diagnose a case or failure of the patient to properly follow the instructions of his physician rather than the weakness of the allopathic system.

The allopathic system as practised during the days of Hahnemann was, no doubt, suppressive but since then the situation has changed a lot. It is time, the homoeopaths took stock of the ground realities and reassessed their attitude to allopathy.

Please understand, I am not an advocate of allopathy. I am trying to just convey what I mostly see. Insinuations by homeopaths against allopathy appear to be based on a negligible fraction of cases spoiled by injudicious use of allopathic drugs. If homoeopaths were in the habit of reporting their failures as faithfully as they are keen to hoist their success stories, the percentage of homoeopathic spoiling will be far greater than allopathy.

I have great respect for homoeopathy, and in fact, have benefited from it. It is a wonderful system; I wish, its practitioners could only shed some of the bias they hold against allopathy and see the ground realities.

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Abdullah<br />I know too little

Some of your points are legitimate

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KN

Thanks Kausar!

Which points do you think are illegitimate?

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Abdullah<br />I know too little

The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) published a report in August of 2000 stating that allopathic medicine was the fourth leading cause of death in the US.

Now on the ads, they are even saying the medicines suppress the disease, but they think that's a good thing!

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I don't agree that allopathic medicines can cure. The situation in allopathic medicine has changed in surface details only--unnecessary surgeries (like the deadly practice of bloodletting Hahnemann rants about) abound; massive over use and injudicious use of strength depleting drugs (anti-biotics, which are useless now due to their massive misuse), poisonous crude substances used in large doses, and practices which abuse patients (experimenting with the population at large, particularly with women, as if they were guinea pigs for drugs which have never been tested on them at all) are all STILL what allopathic medicine is about. In reality, nothing at all has changed from Hahnemann's time, except that now even more people are harmed by allopathic medicine than ever before. Those are the ground realities, even by allopathic medicine's own studies and observations.

I think there can be a place for allopathic medicine (they have some useful diagnostic tools, and those can be marginally interesting; some surgical procedures, eg. what is used to treat traumatic accidents, are probably useful to some people. I'd go to a doctor if I ever broke my arm and wasn't able to set it myself, for example) but for the most part, it is unscientific and driven by huge corporate interests who are not interested in curing the sick.

Hahnemann was correct--the actually philosophical bases for allopathic medicine are flawed, and the paradigm has proven itself to be harmful to humanity. We continue to see this well demonstrated on a daily basis, particularly if we practice homeopathic medicine. If you are like me, it is very rare that someone actually chooses homeopathic treatment first (because in Canada, allopathic treatments are free of charge--however those who are very wealthy often seek out alternative treatments and that is why they maintain superior health). If allopathic medicine actually worked on anyone, no one in alternative medicine would be able to make any income. Most of us are charged with repairing the damage of allopathic medicine and then helping each patient become cured once that damage is reversed.

I do not believe Homeopaths lack courage. What we lack is numbers (in some areas), financial resources, and political and economic power. Those are the only things which keep allopathic medicine "mainstream". None of these things make Homeopathy ineffective, but they certainly keep homeopathic treatment out of reach for people who would otherwise prefer to be cured of their ailments.

[ 25. January 2003, 14:37: Message edited by: ChaChaHeels ]

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Abdullah,

You expressed your views about allopathy. You have the right to say what ever you feel about allopathy and homeopathy. Which new information you provided us, which need to be commented? I think your mail has nothing insight to offer. Kausar has just acknowledged your post and nothing else. :razz:

I was sitting in a home. Father was beating his son and forced him to start study and not to watch cricket match. His son was not ready to start study. At last his son picked up his book and start reading the book in implausible way. When his father gone he thrown the book and started watching Cricket match again.

I was watching the whole proceeding. I called the boy and said “your father does not hate you. He loves you very much. He wants you to become a gentle man. He wants to see you a future pilot.” Our prophet (salal laho elia walayhe waslam) said “Get education even you have to travel a long distance - china”. You must obey your father and watch T.V in your play time.

He took his book, looked at me with great love in his eyes and gone to another room and started reading.

Allopathy is a treatment, which applies with force like a father. When the father will gone. The symptoms will reappear. (Student again started watching T.V)

Homeopathy is a gentle way of treatment. Even on the departure of the father, symptoms will not reappear.

You can take the same job by applying homeopathy or allopathy.

One is aggressive in nature. In allopathy we forced medicine in milligram (in some quantity) into the body and forced the body chemistry to change.

Other is sympathetic in nature. In homeopathy we do not force the medicine rather we asked the vital force to over come the difficulty being faced by the body. In homeopathy we do not apply medicine in milligram rather in negligible form which can not be detected even on electronic balance.

See both method done the same job but the method of taking job was different.

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Dr. Asif Javed, this is a beautiful analogy. Thank you.

[ 27. January 2003, 13:55: Message edited by: sreischman ]

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thanks SR

I have too many stories like this...

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I almost hate admitting it but it is true that some allopathic medicines can cure some people, some of the time. Even antibiotics cure some diseases without suppressing. If you give antibiotics to 100 people, various things can happen, which shows an individual response to the meds.

1. Disease is Suppressed and appear healthy – the disease will manifest itself in another form – ie allergies, asthma, etc usually develop a chronic problem – need homeoapthy
2. Disease will disappear and the person will have no long term side affects – cured – low percentage
3. Disease will not be affected and then only homeopathic treatment seems to make the difference.

Point is it all depends on the individual and their response to the disease and the type of medicine. There is no question for example that there are proven cases of spiritual and psychological healing.

In the end, there is also no question the most consistent method of cure, with no side affects is homeopathy, but the reality is that other forms of medicine that act on a physical, mental, emotional or spiritual level can work depending on the individuals constitution and response to the medicine/treartment. In this day and age fewer people can be fully cured without homeopathy as mans susceptibility to disease is greater for many, many reasons and there is no question to much bad allopathic medicine has greatly contributed to weakening the constitution. One major point for example is how man has developed excessive material needs, which requires a great deal of energy to acquire and often results in poor health. Just like a decrease in moral values has resulted in more and more platinum and cann-i cases, anh., Sulph, and other remedies that deal with adultery, egotistical, greed, selfish or escape type behaviors and many other deeper state type remedies as a direct reflection of society needing more and wanting more.

Also, I have learned a great deal about homeoapthy working along side allopathic medicine when there are no other options. This is obvious in cancer cases that I have seen cured by Herscu. Had to have the chemo and radiation. Many would have died without it and many of those would have died without homeoapthy to help maintain energy and reduce susceptibility during treatment..

In an ideal world, going back 100’s of years, if there was only homeopathy and if there would have been 1000’s of practitioners who were extremely accurate in prescribing, there is no question many chronic illnesses would not exist today or would be greatly reduced in numbers.

JO

Well put arguments, Chacha Heels. But you fail to say, why do homoeopaths avoid publishing their failures? In that sense, I say, they lack courage.

Even if the financial resources and political and conomic powers, which you lament are not available to homoeopaths, were made available to them, still homeopathy would not be able to become mainstream medicine. Homoeopaths do not have the skills or practical training to effectively deal with acute cases, as I have observed for months over this Board. Can you quote me a difinite suggestion for any of the cases presented on this board? There is none. The answers are always evasive.

If antibiotics are being misused, the blame should lay with the practitioners and the patients, not with allopathic system. Allopathic drugs if prescribed with caution are equally safe. Violent reactions can occur with every system in oversensitive individuals.

The analogy of aggressive and gentle treatment as give by Dr. Asif Javed is out of place. Homoeopathic literature has it, that homoeopathic aggravations at times do become very agonising. Wrongly prescribed Homoeopathic medicines can also cuase suppression and make the disease worse. BTW, Dr. Asif, are you a spokesman for Dr. Kausar?

To Sreishman,
According to Encyclopedia Britanicca, iatrogenic diseases are one of the leading causes of death worldwide.

Thanks OJ for admitting something you are colleagues are trying to avoid.

Let the interesting cases of failures also adorn the pages of homoeopathic magazines side by side with the success stories.

[ 27. January 2003, 10:30: Message edited by: Abdullah ]

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