Well, you can think that way, but the fact is:

using remedies allopathically is just not curative.

And that fact will never, ever change, no matter how long ago Hahnemann said it.

You have to prescribe on the totality of the vital force; not on the pathology. It is the fundamental rule of homeopathy.

Your homeopath in Canada sounds like a naturopath, as naturopathy is definitely an allopathic system. It's hard for a lot of people to "get" the difference in the paradigms, particularly if they've really embraced the allopathic one in their training. A constitutional remedy will have related remedies that may be required at some point in the case--but not usually, as that remedy often does the trick no matter what the ailment is, if it is truly the patient's similimum. I'd be quite surprised that anyone who really trained in homeopathy felt the need to prescribe allopathically for any ailment, if they'd really prescribed on the totality of the case and found the similimum.

There's a place for allopathic medicine, it can serve a purpose...but that place is not in homeopathy.

Homeopathic remedies are only homeopathic if they are diluted and succused as proscribed--and if they are homeopathic to the totality of each individual case. Deviate from that basic foundation, and you're not practicing homeopathy.
So you'll have to call it something else, because labelling it homeopathy is just not accurate.

Scientific method, particularly one like Hahnemann's, which was refined repeatedly over the course of 50 years, is really something that must be followed precisely if you want to obtain predictable results. If you don't follow the method, you can't say you're recreating it at all.
It simply is irrelevant what time we are living in, as the scientific method still applies in homeopathic practice today. Do it right: it works and it cures. Do it another way, and you might get a cure, but it won't be likely, and it won't be by homeopathy.

I think all homeopaths agree: if it isn't in the Organon (and the Chronic Diseases, really), it is not homeopathy.

[ 27. March 2004, 13:06: Message edited by: Divina ]

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Homeopathy does not start at organon and finish at organon on dout organon is the contitution of homeopathy but the changing life style demands a contineous process of improvisation
Its not a religion which must be performed in the manner prescribed by prophet
i am a strong believer that a process of improvemnt should be the goal and ultimate target of each sensible Homeopath
i still believe and maitain the various dosed of same remedy can bring better results and no sky falls just try it and y will be a better Homeopath
I hope the pundits will take it positively

thanks for that link, divina, i recall reading it a few years ago when i was introduced to homeopathy on this forum, it was a good refresher.

i've probably complicated things in this thread by initially asking about the use of varying Nat-M potencies, and then later on asking about the use of Graphities / Apis at the same time. the Nat-M is something that was given to me about 2 or more years ago to treat my cold sores. the issue of varying potencies aside, the Nat-M has worked wonderfully, and i'm now worried from your statement that i should never have had another cold sore, which i have. so you're saying this means that the nat-m wasn't in fact a perfect remedy for my cold sores? am i doing more damage by using it everytime a cold sore comes up?

having read your statements and the online book you linked to, i've emailed my homeopath about the use of graphities and apis at the same time. i'm somewhat confused now. i did 2 days of apis 12c and 3 days of graphities 200c, and was then told to stop the apis (there was no indication of whether i was to take apis/graphities at the same time, and her note led me to believe that i was to do so). after the 3 days of graphities 200c, i was instructed to use graphities 30c in liquid form which i've been doing for less than a week now, and for another 5-7 weeks when i'm to meet up again with my homeopath. should i be alarmed by any of that?

another question this makes me have -- does the fact that i still get cold sore (my old symptom), albeit in extremely lower severity and frequency, now have any connection to my current symptoms (flaky, sebborheic like scalp, red / itchy / scaly around eyebrows, slight swelling / pain in right hand joints, tonsil stones)? that is to say, if my cold sores weren't completely cured as you say they should have been, would a future remedy to heal my current symptoms AND my cold sores (which would be complete current history, yes?) require only one remedy? in which case the use of graphities and nat-m (when the symptoms of cold sores arise) is not right?

what should i do?

thanks everyone for your help.

another quick question if i may. to relieve my scalp itch and promote healing, i was told to mix 3 parts aloe vera and 1 part calendula creme. for my scalp and a few other symptoms i was given the graphities 200/30c. will the calendula conflict with the graphities? should i only be doing the graphities?

The topical calendula will not interfere with the potentized remedy; but it may suppress your skin symptoms on your scalp, which will just cause the whole problem to linger.

If the Natrum Muriaticum were the best remedy for your case, it would simply be repeated when necessary, and over the course of time, take care of the symptoms you listed--scalp symptoms, the herpes symptoms, the swelling symptoms, etc. etc. etc.

We do not prescribe a medicine for each ailment: we only prescribe a medicine for each patient. So: if the natrum muriaticum were your similimum, you'd only need to change its potency and/or redose when the time for redosing came.

But, if you've been using other remedies at the same time as the Natrum muriaticum, you'd have absolutely no way to know what medicine was causing what reaction. Using more than one remedy at a time makes it impossible to manage the case properly, and make sure the reactions we see are curative reactions.

And that reason is the real reason why homeopaths only use one remedy at a time...and match the remedy to the individual patient's total symptom picture (NOT to the various symptoms the patient may have).

As I said, your homeopath and I were in the same classes and clinics together...and I know for a fact I wasn't taught to do things any other way than the classical way. But, as I said, I don't have a conventional medical background, as your homeopath does.

Please just ask her to use one remedy for the entire totality--if graphites fits the entire case as it looks now, then ONLY use that remedy...and nothing else! There's no other way to know whether or not it is having any kind of effect on you, otherwise.

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thank you again divina.

so should i stop the calendula? my scalp is driving me bonkers, but i'd rather have it fixed for good and put up with the pain, than to supress it by using nizoral again (which i know would supress it, albeit temporarily) or keep using calendula.

at the moment i'm only using the graphities 30c each morning in liquid form, for the next 5-7 weeks until i meet with her again. i've emailed her about my concerns, so i'll see what she says.

thanks for your help, everyone.

do you mean you are taking a plussed dose, or a new 30c dose each morning?

If you're dosing once a day every day with a 30c, then you are probably proving the remedy. If you're taking a water potency or plussed dose, and the itching has actually improved and now returned to be even more troublesome, then you've also had too much of the remedy. Stop taking it!

Really, don't wait 5 to 7 weeks to contact your homeopath.

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*sigh*, so confusing. as per my homeopath's instructions, i was told to take graphities 200c at night for 3 nights in capsule form. after those 3 nights were over, i was told to take 30c only (ie, stop 200c) in liquid form (5-10 drops in 1/4cup water) each morning until i saw her again (6-8 weeks).

is this bad?

the itching has never improved, it's gone back to how it used to be prior to my using nizoral shampoo, which is obviously not a homeopathic treatment. i used the nizoral before going to my homeopath and getting the graphities. i stopped nizoral once i started taking the graphities.

i emailed my homeopath yesterday, but i thought i'd have to wait 5-7 weeks to see results with treatment.

seems like i'm just getting more confused about whether i'm doing something wrong / being misinformed. i appreciate your help.

Okay, so, do you take a dose from that same dilution glass every day? If so, you have actually split the 30c dose.

When you use a split dosing technique, you continue to dose ONLY if there is continued improvement in the case.

Once you begin to experience you old symptoms, you MUST STOP DOSING with the liquid remedy. That little aggravation is your vital force telling you not to take anymore.

Now, if you are actually mixing up a new 30c dose every morning (i.e. you use a new glass of 1/4 cup water, into which you shake out another 5 to 10 drops of the remedy each day), you are taking one 30c dose every single day...for up to 8 weeks.

If this is the case for you, then you are obvioulsy proving the remedy, as this is way too much medicine. Stop taking any more of it. The proving symptoms should be antidoted...or simply allowed to die down on their own.

I can't tell where the problem originates--in misinformation or in confusion. All I know is that in classical homeopathy, we use as little as possible of any given remedy, and only dose when necessary. Repeating remedies without changing the potency is very, very risky, as it usually messes up a case and causes pain for the patient.

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thank you divina.

slightly frustrated, just tried calling my homeopath and she won't be in until next week i don't know what to do.

currently, i am doing the latter method -- one 30c dose every single day. i put 5-10 drops into a 1/4cup of water each day and drink that.

i don't know if it's fair to say that my symptoms are getting worse. before i started the graphities, i was using nizoral shampoo, which totally got rid of the itching / flaking that i'm experiencing. before i did the nizoral shampoo, i was feeling what i'm feeling now. so it's not that the graphities is making my symptoms worse, it's that the symptoms are returning to their pre-homeopathic, pre-allopathic (if i can call it that?) state.

i don't understand why she would tell me to take 30c each morning. when i spoke to her last week i asked specifically if she meant every day for the next 6-8 weeks and she said yes. might there never be a situation where this is required? your confidence about my taking 30c everyday for the next 6-8 weeks being too much, and to stop taking it, scares me. i trust my homeopath, but the info she gave me and the info you're giving me are in conflict. not having her around to ask, i'm not sure what to do until she's back. if i stop taking the graphities 30c now, i might screw up treatment which i've been doing for about 2 weeks now. but i don't want to screw myself up more by taking the 30c if it's damaging.

not sure where to go from here