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Just like in Allopathy we have substitute for variety of medicines, If Ampicilline is not available we can substitute it with Erythromycine. If Novalgine is not obtainable we can replace it with sistalgin. If avil (histamine tablet) is not on hand we can use incidal instead of avil. All of them more or less same affect over the body but actually all of them have different salt inside.

Is this formula for substitution of medicine / remedies applicable in alternative homeopathic therapy.

No, if a particular remedy is the similimum, then it and only it is the similimum. However, if given in low potency for an acute, a 'close enoughicum' can stimulate the vital force enough that the person can heal themselves. For chronic diseases, if the similimum cannot be found, it is possible to zig zg to cure using a series of remedies that address particular parts of the case in turn. But the ideal is always to find the similimum and no other remedy will give the same results.

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Shirley Reischman

Shirly,

You have been confuesed by the question.

The answer is in big YES

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<b>Lady Dr. Meena</b>

Dear Meena,
Would you please explain. Thanks.

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Shirley Reischman

Lee Yuon and Shirley Reischman,

I guess, we have substitute in homeopathy too. It is my opinion.

Suppose, when you obtain the entire symptoms of a patient and you see two closely matched remedies in your outcome i.e. Belladonna at first grade and Kali mur at second grade. You see, both remedies are very closely matching to each other, one is covering 10 out 13 and other 8 out 13 symptoms respectively.

Now suppose, you don’t have belladonna in hand, you can prescribe Kali mur as a substitute for curing rest of the 8 symptoms of the patient.


All the best.

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<b><a href="mailto:drsalim@inbox.com.pk">drsalim@inbox.c om.pk</a></b>

Dr. Salim,
Substitute means to use one instead of the other and get the same results using either. In this case, you would still be left with two symptoms and would need to find another remedy to cover them, i.e., zig zag to the cure.

[ 27. December 2002, 09:17: Message edited by: sreischman ]

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Shirley Reischman

It is VERY unlikely that two remedies that are not similar will positively impact a case. Kali-mur and Belladonna are not similar remedies, however Glonoine and Belladonna are, Lachesis and Belladonna are, Stramonium and Belladonna are, Hyoscamus and Belladonna are. These remedies might serve in a case where Belladonna was unavailable, but as Shirley has stated, only the correct remedy will give a good quality cure. The alternative remedy must cover the core of the case, not just a close numerical totality.

Many students and new homoeopaths will confirm that using a remedy based on number of symptoms covered, rarely cures or in fact, does anything. At best it will palliate, at worst it will suppress.

However, a remedy that is close to the core of the case, will push the person close to cure. Several remedies may do this, even though not the similimum (perfect fit). These similar remedies, may in fact be all some patients ever get.

There are already well-established complementary relationships between many remedies - Sepia and Nat-mur, Nat-mur and Apis, Sulphur and Calc-carb and Lyc, Caust and Staph, Thuja and Arsenicum, Medorrhinum and Cannabis, and so on.

Many work on remedy/substance groups has been done over the years - the Snakes, the Spiders, the Compositae, the Cacti, the Lillies, the Sulphurs, the Drug remedies, the Psoric remedies, the Sycotic remedies, the Roses, and so forth. Certain groups of remedies do in fact show similarities, which makes prescribing a little easier in some cases.

But without knowing what is to be cured in a case, it is impossible to know what group of remedies might be servicable. Belladonna will not be replaced by Lachesis in every case, only where both remedies are close to the core of the case.

And even where a remedy is replaced by one less similar, it does not cure the whole case, and leaves more prescribing to be done. Zig-zagging, as Shirley says. We all do it sometimes, as finding the right remedy can a herculean task.

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David Kempson.<br />Dip.Homoeopathic Medicine.<br />Lecturer Australian College of Natural Therapies (Brisbane Campus)<br />Member AHA, AROH, HMA<br />Member Australian Homoeopathic Association. Member#0442.

Dear Colleques

Medical substances are defined by their properties to alter health into a peculiar state of disease. This state of disease is unique to every medical substance. Only by this uniqueness is it possible to distinguish one medicine from another if we wish to rely on facts, precondition to being curative.

Those alterations were experienced by test persons in good health taking the substance till they experienced these alterations expressed by signs and symptoms, which were then collected in the proving protocols.
These proving protocols are related to in homeopathy as the Materia Medica Pura.
A medical substance becomes homeopathic by fulfilling three preconditions:

1) Its health altering properties have to be established before application in healthy humans-
2) It has to be aptly chosen by symptom similitude to the case of disease at hand
3) It has to be applied in the most suitable dose

From above one could argue, that there is no direct substitution possible, if one wants to work curative I.E. homeopathic.

On the other hand, if the case has few individualising symptoms only, a lot of remedies are similar enough to the disease-state to bring the cure forward. It has happened, that two equally suitable remedies were left for the final analysis, and just one was given. Theoretically, the other remedy would have affected improvement, but this stays hypothetical, as we cannot repeat the situation when the first remedy was given and then give the other one.

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Hans Weitbrecht
Consultant Homeopath
homeopathy study guide: http://www.homeopathyworldcommunity....hy-study-guide

How does I see this question?

It is most important and typical question put forwarded by youan. He is the most genious man. Or may be the man behind youan is genioius.

Try to understand the question. It is my opinion that there is no substitue in allopathy but there are many substitute in homeopathy. You have observed so many times that doctors do prescribe two, three or four remedies at a time and says these four are very closly matching with each other. try to find one out of them. This is due to the reason of covering of symtpoms of the patient which these remedies are covering.

It looks to me Dr. Salim point is most valid here. The question is not belladonna or kali-mur are closed remedies are not. I suppose he only gave here example for elaborating his point of view. What is your point dr.salim.?

David jk has perfect answer. He v3ery rightly point out glonine and belladonna. He is also saying the same point.

I included 14 symptoms in carapro. The top remedy was phos. The phos was covering 13 symptoms. Lachesis was covering 11. If we will give phos, the phos will certainly heal 13 symptoms and not that one which was not covering by it.

The last uncovered symptom was covering by lach. I will vive lach on his second visit. That lach will surely cover his alone symptom which was not covered by phos.

So point is very clear. Homeopathy has substitute but the question was put forwarded by typically. It is strange question and very tricky.

I appreciate the input made by youan.

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<b>With warmest regards<br />Q.T</b>

How does I see this question?

It is most important and typical question put forwarded by youan. He is the most genious man. Or may be the man behind youan is genioius.

Try to understand the question. It is my opinion that there is no substitue in allopathy but there are many substitute in homeopathy. You have observed so many times that doctors do prescribe two, three or four remedies at a time and says these four are very closly matching with each other. try to find one out of them. This is due to the reason of covering of symtpoms of the patient which these remedies are covering.

It looks to me Dr. Salim point is most valid here. The question is not belladonna or kali-mur are closed remedies are not. I suppose he only gave here example for elaborating his point of view. What is your point dr.salim.?

David jk has perfect answer. He v3ery rightly point out glonine and belladonna. He is also saying the same point.

I included 14 symptoms in carapro. The top remedy was phos. The phos was covering 13 symptoms. Lachesis was covering 11. If we will give phos, the phos will certainly heal 13 symptoms and not that one which was not covering by it.

The last uncovered symptom was covering by lach. I will vive lach on his second visit. That lach will surely cover his alone symptom which was not covered by phos.

So point is very clear. Homeopathy has substitute but the question was put forwarded by typically. It is strange question and very tricky.

I appreciate the input made by youan.

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<b>With warmest regards<br />Q.T</b>