Avogadro’s law is not applicable to homeopathic medicines / dilutions. As energy can be transfer via nerve cell through homeopathic dilutions, I think avogadro’s law is a materialistic approach in connection with 1 mole of substance while we know sub-atomic particles are transformed into photons, which in turn materialize, hence there is no need of any molecule. Just use plumbum atoms as a starting material, sub-atomic particles will be transfer in the first phase into alcoholic molecules (SOLVENT). Then in 2nd potency you don't required plumbum atoms. Later on solvent molecules will carry on these sub-atomic particles in the form of energy.

Actually Homeopathy provides step into balance of forces inside and outside body tissue.

Of course it is my hypothesis but it is based on neutron and proton's energy transfer rather atom to atom energy transfer. (there are atleast 30 particles inside an atom, I hope).

I don't belive in transfer of energy from atom to atom.... rather I belive in transfer of energy in the form of sub-atomic particle within similar molecules ie. solvent molecule of alcohol.

That is why we say alcohol in homeopathic diltutions are said to be a homeopathic cariers.

[ 18. December 2002, 09:53: Message edited by: Azra ]

Azra, you were missing.

So for we haven’t solved energy transfer dispute and you bring another one. Now speak up…

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To Azra,

Energy can only be transferred by adopting two different methods; by work or by sending heat. People exercise these words in the form of energy. But actually books on thermodynamics say, “Work and heat are the processes or methods for transferring energy and not actual forms of energy. When describing energy transfers in this way, we should say something like, "energy transferred during a work process". Or when talking about a heat process, we might be more correct to say, "energy transferred by heat flow". I think it the more appropriate way to express this process. Now we can say that homeopathic dilutions have energy which came after the interaction of solute (any homeopathic medicine) and Solvent (Alcohol a homeopathic carrier).

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Javed you are a good intelligent doctor. I appreciate your input. Good thinking.

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Dr.Javed,Dr.Salim,
This topic also seems to belong to other topic. If it would have been discussed there you would have got awnser quickly. I think Abs. topic has splitted in several topics, I don't understand how it will be handled now. Homeoman has also splitted his theory in two, may he now furthur split in several theories. I feel it is becoming high potentised remedy.

Dr.Javed, you can better understand these energy transfer processes being BB. Sorry,just refreshing or converting energy.

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Sir Arshad

I cannot comment. you are right.

So many were presenting new theories. I thought I should not remain behind. It was just an idea about Avg/Law.

Very bad azra. You are playing game. I think your first post is quite impressive. Don't cheat.

No!..... Avogadro’s law does applicable over homeopathic dilutions but its utilization and implementation is totally different over homeopathic dilutions. It is correct in its own place when we talk about one mole of a substance but the way we are relating this law with homeopathic dilutions is not correct.

In Zinc Met 12c, we say Zinc met atoms are there according to Avogadro’s law. O.K it is correct, but I see it in another perspective, in 12 c potency of Zinc met the molecular format or set of code or placement of molecules or atoms or ionic charge could be different on solvent alcohol. While the set of code, molecular placement or category of ionic charge over solvent alcohol of 30c potency of Zinc met is entirely different with solvent alcohol of 12 c potency of Zinc met.

Hence, in my opinion, if we use 12 c Zinc met potency, then the presence of zinc met atoms have no role to play and has less importance when atom of solvent alcohol 12 c has developed into unique structure which is capable of getting reflex from the body. So, to my opinion even in 12 c potency it is the atoms of alcohol solvent which react in the body and not zinc met actual atoms although they are also present in the dilution according to avogadro’s law. But these Zinc met atoms will not give response during qualitative response.

My assumption could be correct, as there is no Zinc met atoms in 30 potency but solvent alcohol is doing its job very well in the body even in 200 potency and patients are getting qualitative response.

So, it is correct that according to avagodro’s law in Zinc met 12 c potency atoms of Zinc met are present but it does not matter. Actually when we administer 12 c potency even then only solvent molecules of alcohol take part in the interaction with the chemicals of body and not zinc met. That tiny physical quantity has no importance in homeopathy as for as the qualitative response is concerned.

If we want to take quantitative response of Zinc met in the body then we have to give Zinc met in crude form (as we do when we prove homeo medicine and symptoms produced after administrating crude form after applying adequate quantity) in some sufficient quantity and if we want to take the reflexive or qualitative response of Zinc met then we have apply Zinc met in almost immaterial form as per similia similibus rule founded by Hahnemann (just like we administer 30 or above potency)

This formula is also applicable on bio-chemic medicines, when we are administrating Calc phos in 6x, then actually we are interested in taking reflexive / qualitative response / action of the medicine and for this purpose one tablet (like cyanide example) is sufficient and if we want quantitative response (just like allopaths do) then we have to prescribe calc phos in some reasonable quantity like one or two milligram etc.

Remember quantitative response is also the need of the body but all medicines have not the property of giving quantitative response but each homeo medicine has the ability to produce qualitative response which was observed during its proving only.

It was Schussler who observed that 12 tissue salts can give relief in some peculiar symptoms of patient by taking / applying qualitative or reflexive response in potency form.

It is my thinking by giving 12 salts in potency form, actually we are not going to cover the deficiency of salt of a body quantitatively rather we want to clear up / subside the symptoms which were produced due the deficiency of these salts in the body by taking reflexive action of these 12 medicines in potency form.

When you say potency in any strength then it means qualitative reflexive response and in this situation you just need one tablet which have million and million of atoms of solvent like lactose, fructose, sugar or alcohol. It will clear up those symptoms which were produced due to the deficiency of these salts in the body. When you say I want to cover up the deficiency of body salt quantitatively (like allopaths) then administer these salts in milligram and not in potency form.

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Dear Arshad Sheikh,

I have no comments to offer. Just to say, you gave us new thought, which is logical and thought provocating. Thank you.

Dear Arshad Sheikh,

Your point has sound status and has no answer