I believe that repertory has limitation. You can not entirely depend upon repertory for selecting remedy. Just like the story of Aladin. Whenever Aladdin wanted anything he would rub the lamp and the thing wanted would be provided by the magic lamp. I can't expect all these things from repertory.

I believe that without taking proper symptom one can not reach to similimum remedy and without similimum remedy one can not hope for cure.

My question is if a patient is suffering from fever, cold, sneezing, coryza, cough, severe pain in stomach and severe headache.

Then which symptom should be treated first?

On which symptom we can base our first prescription?

ONE WILL BE DOOMED IF ONE ENTIRELY DEPENDS UPON THE RESULTS OF MATHEMATICAL CALCULATION (select remedy which covers all symptoms: a rule) OF THE REPERORIZATION.

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None of the above. You find the modalities, how he feels different than before becoming ill, what triggered the illness, the common threads running through all of the symptoms.

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Dear Stranger:

You asked:
I believe that without taking proper symptom one can not reach to similimum remedy and without similimum remedy one can not hope for cure.

My question is if a patient is suffering from fever, cold, sneezing, coryza, cough, severe pain in stomach and severe headache.

Then which symptom should be treated first?

If it is not clear which symptom troubles the patient the most, you first look at each complaint and consider what potentially is the most debilitating for the patient. If a person has colitis and says their main complaint is a stuffy nose, you need to focus on colitits as it can potentially kill you! If all seem equally debilitating then you need to find out how much energy they use or which symptoms take more energy. It is excessive energy use that keeps the body from healing itself. Also, if you ask them what is the worse thing about each symptom and what they do to deal with it and how they feel about it, you can often determine which symptom is torubeling them the most. You will also see for some symptoms their response to having the symptoms is the same which indicates energy use and what needs fixed. So in your example with stomach and head pain you may find the quality of the pain is a pressing out pain and that both of these pains are reduced by hard pressure and you may find out their emotional response to the pain is irritability vs. say feeling sad and then you find out what makes both these or other symptoms better or worse and you find common ideas that will point toward their response to the symptoms/disease.

The key is to find the common qualities of symptoms and how they feel about them as a response to them and what they do. usually a major theme or idea will repeat itself so you know you are tracking the true cheif complaint and what needs fixed.

Hope this is helpful

John Oljace

[ 07. December 2002, 16:58: Message edited by: john oljace ]

I agree totally with you, the repertory is not the panacea, what is necessary to can search in the repertory, or as Hahnemann was saying, to know what it is necessary to treat in every patient. And I am of I agree also in that without the simillimum there is no healing. Now then, from my concept unicista, the medicine simillimum is one and does not change during the whole life of the patient, does not change, since they do not change the finger fingerprints.
It(He,She) is all the same that the picture is chronic or sharp(acute), patient falls ill with an individual form, with "his("its") form and not with other one. To find this remedy that initiates the movement of treatment(healing), it is necessary to know what it is necessary to treat, observe what our patient suffers, to think which it is the deep disease, and it does not seem to me that the disease can be any of the mentioned symptoms, so as Sreischman says, none of these symptoms would take to find the simillimum. It(he,she) is more, if the patient was a really serious patient to organic level, of cancer for example and was doing a picture of this type, with sneezes, cough, fever, etc., we would be present at symptoms dismiss in a curative sense and it would be a serious mistake to treat them. A thing is to treat and different other one is to recover, and sometimes is not necessary to treat to allow to recover. Greeting

[ 29. April 2003, 22:48: Message edited by: Opium ]

In the past, a confused (research oriented mind) person initiated a title that totality of symptom is wrong concept in homeopathy. Many HOMEOPATHS opposed him. I am confused which rule is applicable whether we should include all symptoms of the patient or only most important symptom

At that time all main regular member opposed him. But he forced that it is wrong concept. Now what are your views today..

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thanks for sharing thoughts

Include the totality of the persons diseased state, which may or may not include the totality of signs and symptoms. While the philosophy of homeopathy is scientific, the practice of it is an art. If the practice of it were not an art, anyone could buy a software program and become a great homeopath. Instead, what I've often seen, is that once the person starts using the computer, their success rate decreases, because they just lump all the symptoms together.

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I tend to agree. However, it's not only an art. There are parts that are scientific, actually more so than allopathic medicine.

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Homeoman, Without "observation" there would be NO science. Observation is a key element and dates back to the beginning of time. It is through observation that we have been able to formulate, fixed calculations.

Shiley statment; No philisophy is not scientific. Even the philosophy of any subject is not scientific. The word philosophy itself is telling you it is not scientific. I agree some portion of homeopathy is based on availabale scientific needs but not all.

As for as the art is concerned practicing of all therapies are art. It is not new thing with homeopathy. practice of allopathy, homeopathy, magenetotherapy, acupuncture, herbal, electro homeopathy, or other therapies are all art.

I agree by just feeding symptom into the computer, you can not get proper result. But may be you will agree to me. It is all happening in homeopathic community.