could some one tell me if in general it is possible for someone to have an act of violence/self distraction as an aggravation response to the remedy, also considering that the person has never done anything that dramatic in the past?
Thanks,

An aggravation, by definition, must consist of symptoms normally experienced by the patient or experienced in the past.

During an aggravation, a patient may also experience one or two MINOR or trifling symptoms associated with the remedy that they themselves have never had before - as the remedy is in fact creating a new but similar artificial disease to replace their natural one.

An act of violence would not be, in my opinion, a minor or trifling symptom. This is more likely to be a proving, suppression of a lesser symptom which has moved into the mind (more dangerous reaction), or the person's illness is just progressing unaffected by the remedy.

I would also eliminate any outside factors that could have stimulated this behaviour. Does it run in the family?

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Thanks David. This type of behavior does run in the family. The patient has had something similar in the past, but never this aggressive and deep. The patient can also hardly remember what was sad, what happened and where bruises came from (claiming that she has very sensitive skin). Could this mean that the remedy hit the right spot and resolved some problems of the past or it opened the door to a bigger problems?

An aggravation has nothing to do with a direct stimulation of cells. It is the vital force that is stimulated. An aggravation is an increase in intensity of whatever the vital force was doing prior to administering the remedy. I have had someone who was dealing with anger issues become physically violent after taking the remedy. However, by the next day the aggravation had subsided and he was calmer than he had been prior to taking the remedy.

I do have to say that I'm concerned by recent efforts of some BB members to convince people that homeopathy is a materialistic rather than a vitalistic form of healing.

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Shirley Reischman

If the patient has experienced this before, then it is likely to be an aggravation, and that should result in some positive changes for the person.

Shirley, I agree completely with you. Some people are threatened by the thought that something cannot be explained in current scientific terms - from fear or a need to conform, who knows.

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No, the remedy stimulates the vital force, not the cell. The vital force may then stimulate a cell or it may stimulate some non-material response, i.e., mental/emotional reaction, in the body which in turn stimulates the cell. But the remedy never directly stimulates anything on a material level. All illness and all healing originate and take place through the vital force and all homeopathic remedies act on the vital force. This is what distinguiches homeopathy from allopathy, herbal and most other forms of medicine.

Cell salts, because they are given in very low potency, may act directly on the cells, but they are not homeopathic, even though the salts are prepared homeopathically. There are many things prepared homeopathically, e.g., Anthroposophical medicines, but unless they are given based on the laws of homeopathy, they are not homeopathic. They must have gone through provings and a single remedy must be given that matches the symptoms of the patient, which symptoms must have been elicited during the provings.

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Shirley Reischman

The error is in thinking that the vital force is physical/material/cellular.

Par 9 - In the healthy condition of man, the spiritual vital force, the dynamis that animates the material organism, rules with unbounded sway. It retains all parts of the organism in admirable, harmonious, vital operation, as regards both sensations and functions, so that our reason-gifted mind can freely employ this living-healthy instrument for the higher purposes of our existence.

Par 10 - The material organism - without the vital force -, is capable of no sensation, no function, no self preservation; it is dead, and if only subject to the power of the external physical world, it decays, and is again dissolved into its chemical constituents.
Only the immaterial being (the vital force) which animates the material organism in health and in disease, derives all sesations and performs all functions of life.

Par 11 - When a person falls ill, it is only this spiritual, self-acting vital force, everywhere present in the organism that is primarily deranged by the dynamic influence upon it of a morbific agent inimical to life. It is only the vital force principle, deranged to such an abnormal state, that can furnish the organism with its disagreeable sensations, and incline it to irregular processes which we call disease.
If one looks upon something nauseous and becomes inclined to vomit, did a material emetic come into his stomach which compels him to this anti-peristaltic Movement? Was it not solely the dynamic effect of the nauseating aspect upon his imagination? And if one raises his arm, does it occur through a material visible instrument? A Lever? Is it not solely the conceptual dynamic energy of his will which raises it?
This power, invisible in itself, and only cognizable by its effects on the organism, makes known its morbid derangements only by manifestation of disease in the sensations and functions, and in no other way can it make itself known.

It is the sensations and functions which can be see, measured, etc., not the vital force. This is Homeopathy 101. He later goes on to say that the remedies can only influence the vital force because they are of a spiritual quality, also, and not material.

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Shirley Reischman

I think we will have to agree to disagree. I see everything in the universe as having a spiritual base from God. The material is only a manifestation of the spiritual. Only the material can be weighed, seen or measured. The spiritual can nevr be weighed, seen or measured by anything material. It can only be experienced as we develop our own spiritual nature.

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Shirley Reischman

I do agree that in the future we will be able to measure more things and thereby increase our knowledge of them. But I also believe there is a definite difference of quality between things spiritual and material. I also think that some of the striving to make homeopathy more 'scientific' can do a grave disservice to it. As soon as we begin to think unclearly about what is actually happening, we muddy the philosophy and begin a sloppy practice. And I think trying to turn homeopathy into a materialistic modality is one of the indictation of not thinking clearly about what it really is.

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Shirley Reischman

Homeopathy has survived and grown for over 200 years without justifying itself scientifically. "It's by the results that you will know them". Since the spiritual is a prior to the material, maybe it's time allopathic medicine justify itself to us spiritually instead of the other way around!

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