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Old 18th December 2002, 04:22 AM
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This question is for everybody. A few months ago I asked if a condition called Meckel Gruber Syndrome can be treated with homeopathy and the result seemed to be no. Well, the baby that had been diagnosed, in utero, with MGS was born last month and does not have MGS but sadly she has polycystic kidneys, a condition called Dandy Walker, has anemia and high calcium levels. Now I know homeopathy can help her to a degree but can it CURE the polycystic kidneys? The parents are very antialternative medicine - the dad works for a pharmaceutical company so for them to try homeopathy the evidence would need to be pretty convincing.

Also, in your opinions, what homeopathic MD would you recommend in the USA. I know they would probably only see an MD.

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Old 18th December 2002, 04:24 AM
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I should say that at this point it appears that the baby has about 40% kidney function. If it drops to 20% then she will be put on dialysis and a transplant list.

She appears to be a healthy looking baby and is a good sleeper and eater, seems "normal" in her behavior etc.
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Old 18th December 2002, 09:45 AM
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I hope you will find a good MD doctor. I pray for her and your kind hearted effort.
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Old 18th December 2002, 12:41 PM
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My dear Barb,

You are a homeopath. Homeopath does work in good and accurate manner. Homeopath always place things in proper shape. Homeopath loves perfection and needs perfection in all walks of life and affairs.

I think it is not best manner in public forum to invite friends in such manner like you did here. That such and such are welcome and rest go to hell. You can give some other best title to your first post of your thread.

When I first read your initiating title, I thought I should not enter in this post. Public forum needs extra ordinary care. This reflects the personality of any user.
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Arshad,
The only reason why BArb has mentioned names is because she knows these people have responded to her requests in past threads with information she can use. Did you answer her thread the last time when she asked about this child?
Those mentioned above did, most probably.

If you do so now, then I'm sure she will add your name to the list as well. Basically nobody needs any special invitation here (its a public board as you mentioned yourself), and when you've been here long enough as those mentioned above, you will realise that.

So don't feel bad about contributing advise that can be really helpful to a person in need, whether your name is mentioned or not.

HI Barb,

BAsically a condition like polycystic kidney is not curbale, but homeopathic remedies can certainly improve renal function. If 40% is baseline, I think the first thing a good remedy can do is maintian the function at 40% and not allow it to deteriorate furthur. Dialysis visits can be delayed and sometimes not even required.

ITs very difficult counselling such patients on what is best for their child however. BUT I think yes, if they see an MD they will be more open to advise, more becuase they know that they can have Insurance on the cost of treatment more than anything else.

What about JAcob Mireman in Mpls? He sounds pretty convincing. You could ask them to read his book too. Other than that you could refer them to anyone else of repute.

John O will turn up soon reccomending Paul HErscu!

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Old 18th December 2002, 01:50 PM
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Dear Arshad

First of all, I did not ask this question as a homeopath or even as a student of homeopathy but as a concerned friend. This has been a devestating blow for the family and they are very dear friends of mine. The father and I were childhood playmates and have been close for 22 years. I wanted answers from the people I mentioned because I trust their opinions and more importantly have "known" many of them for years now. However, if you notice, I did say "everyones" opinion and after mentioning a few specific names also put up etc.

I neglected to put up SHirleys name in my haste and she was so kind as to reply privately with the name os someone close by.

I am also looking for MD's in the US and was hoping some of the practitioners mentioned may know someone.

What is your problem anyway? Get a grip and get over it, I am so sick of the **** you and your compadre's pull - If in my post Imeant for everyone else to go hell then I would've put that in there and I think from now on I WILL!

Leela, thank you for the information on treating PCOS. That was exactly what I was looking for.

Azra, your kindness is very much appreciated.
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PKD may not be curable in all cases. A great deal depends on what kinds of drugs have been used, what kind of suppressive treatments, like surgeries, have been employed, etc. etc.

In short, the usual terms apply: each case must be individualized.

If there has been minimal intervention using suppressive treatments, then the prognosis for cure looks better and better. PKD is a disease you'll have to monitor forever, because if it is active it will continue to cause cyst formation; but that is no reason why a homeopathic remedy couldn't stop that tendency indefinitely. Certainly, if any "flare ups" occur they could be treated with homeopathy too.

I don't believe there is any such thing as an incurable disease; all diseases are curable, depending on the individual person's history and totality. After all, it is the vital force which cures, and that has the ability and knowledge to cure any ailment. Pick the right remedy and you'll have the right catalyst for this work.

There are plenty of remedies which address PKD in homeopathy, too. It beats doing nothing, and "settling" with the poor prognosis allopathic meds offer. If the parents don't understand that, tap dancing on your head to convince them to try homeopathy will only make them more set in their decision against it. Raise the possibility, provide information if they ask, and leave the decision to them.

If you're gonna go for an MD homeopath, make sure you put a good one down. Dr. Merman, for eg, is in your state, isn't he? At least we know he practices homeopathy properly--or at least "gets it".

P. S.: it may be unkind, but I find it quite mystifying that people who only want to try treatments that absolutely, 100%, will cure a hereditary disease won't give homeopathy a chance. After all, allopathic medicine is quite forthright about their inability to treat this illness. Conventional medicine will not cure this ailment, will not effectively contain this disease, will not offer any alternative except to create further complications to this disease. Basically, it can't do a damn thing for this disease except let you watch the decline, and possibly hasten it.

But Homeopathy must be able to CURE it, or no go.
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Dear Barb,

Judyth Reichenberg-Ullman and Robert Ullman are taking cases by phone now, you've probably seen their ad in Homeopathy Today, and if one were to call them, they would undoubtedly know who best to refer the child to if they felt they were wrong for the case.

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Hello Barb,

One difficulty is that (if the dx of Dandy Walker syndrome is correct) there will be surgical intervention and chronic medication to control hydrocephalus and many other side issues. I don't have experience with treating patients with multiple congenital defects so can't offer any advice, beyond what has already been said above. On a personal note I would be careful, despite good intentions, of how we go about urging good friends to try other treatments. Even though the parents have had some time to adjust to the news that their child has serious abnormalities it will still be an impossibly stressful time. If they are not open to other possible treatments it can easily be interpreted as a criticism and attack on them. In these sorts of situations I've found it easier to offer any assistance that they are open to, it may be fixing a meal, picking up some groceries, cleaning the toilet, something to take the stress out of the immediate situation. It is every member of the family that needs assistance in their own way. You have naturopathic remedies at your disposal, human kindness and common sense. Hopefully the parents will also be unhindered in their acceptance of the difficult road ahead.

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Old 18th December 2002, 10:53 PM
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Dear Barb -

See the thread by Jennilee on "caught between homeopathic/allopathic..." which was a complicated case but included PKD. I'm not sure how the two cases compare, but there was some good discussion on that other thread. A naturopath friend offered the following comments when I inquired of her, about an enzyme product; I'm unsure whether or to what degree this recommendation carries over from the adult case on the other thread to the present discussion--that would take some further exploration:

"Wobenzyme's, an enyzme product from Germany, which should be available everywhere. They should be take in high doses on empty stomach. They can break down the protein coating around the cysts and digest them."

Good luck to your friends.

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