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Old 28th November 2002, 11:43 PM
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I have been asked to enquire whether Constitutional Homeopathy can reverse Vaginal Atrophy (sudden aquisition of dry vagina which after the gentlest of intercourse results in intense soreness, pain and spotting )
subject is 58 and post menopausal by 4 yrs
Does not want to take HRT unless its only option to save marriage and her suffering

Had no problems of hot flushes etc during menopause so this has come as a nasty shock
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Pat,

Not a constitutional but a specific remedy has little hope.
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Davis: La homeopatía cura, los homeópatas no siempre.
La homeopatía puede curar la atrofia vaginal, pero no así, dando unos datos y medicándose a ciegas. La enferma debe buscar un homeópata unicista que intente encontrar su remedio simillimum, eso la curará. Repito, la homeopatía cura, y los homeópatas y millones de pacientes del mundo entero lo saben. Cuando no conseguimos curar, nosotros hemos fallado, no ha fallado la homeopatía. Saludos.
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Davis: The homeopathy recovers, the homeopaths not always. The homeopathy can treat the vaginal atrophy, but not this way, giving a few information and taking medicine blindly. The patient must look a homeopath unicista that tries to find his(its) remedy simillimum, it will treat her(it). I repeat, the homeopathy recovers, and the homeopaths and million patients of the entire world know it. When we do not manage to recover, we have failed, it(he,she) has not trumped the homeopathy. Regards.
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boy is it any wonder i am confused

I thought that it was important to find a Classically trained Homeopath who found the correct constitutional remedy for the patient which would then cure all the symptoms

Instead it seems you are suggesting some conditions need specific treatment irrespective of any other problem in the patient
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Hello,

If enduring traditional, but painful penetrative sex is thought to be the only way to "save the marriage", then maybe it's the communication between the partners in the marriage that could do with a 'remedy'. Reality is, the aging process is a natural physiological process. Using artificial hormones to delay this inevitability comes with a higher price of endangering overall health. If penetrative sex has been the favoured way to achieve orgasm and is no longer suitable, then it's time for both partners to use some imagination, creativity and lose some inhibitions. The sexual relationship will not be left devoid of sensuality, feeling, intimacy, romance, or orgasms.

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From what i gather she is suffering herself from the resulting dryness irrespective of sexual activity and 58 is hardly old in todays terms to accept such a consequence of ageing
As her 86yr old Mother has severe Osteoporosis she is caught in a cleft stick of knowing what to do for the best

HRT is her very last consideration which is why she asked if Homeopathy could assist

In all other respects she is exceptionally young and i would not blame her for being rather offended by Chris's attitude
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Well, there is no need to take offence at anything said here.

The constitutional approach, "unicist" as Opium described it, is still the best approach and can work extremely well...and there is also this possibility that some issues in the relationship also need addressing, as Chris suggests. A lot of women wish that their partners would stop worrying so much about penetrative sex, and try other stuff which isn't so dependent on the vagina's ability to lubricate itself. But the topic is hard for some people to bring up, and the alternatives can be a little daunting. That's not said to offend, but merely to propose another means which might allow this woman to expand her relationship a bit so that she can still enjoy a happy sexual relationship with her partner despite her current complaint. After all, the state of that relationship does indeed figure prominently in the case-taking...and this is often the case with many women who experience this symptom. It may not be true for your friend, but it is true for many. Like it or not, it does make up a part of her "totality", either way. A remedy chosen to address even this aspect as well as the physical one, will help this patient restore her ability and her relationship as well.
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PS: if its really just a problem during intimacy, then she does have an option to temporarily ease the pain...which does not involve having to take HRT. There are many water soluble vaginal lubricants on the market, if vaginal intercourse is something she still wants and enjoys. It won't cure the problem, but it will make the option of having vaginal intercourse viable again, without having to do something scary like HRT. In the meantime, homeopathy could help to make things better.

I definitely believe aging is a natural process, but I don't think intercourse should be painful, ever. Its not a healthy sign.
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Hi PAt,

Was Vaginal atrophy made as a diagnosis?
I doubt something like this would occur so early, and especially so soon after menopause. I think this is more vaginal dryness rather than atrophy -unless a gynaec can confirm that.

This is definitely treatable with a good homeopathic remedy, but there's no telling how long it will take.

I think Divina's suggestion of a local lubricant is the best short term/temporary solution. There are some very good ones available in the market today, some even containing Vit E.

And also Chris has a point, that could be considered depedning on the mental outlook of the couple in question.
Though I doubt it would be helpful even in the Indian context!! (No offence Chris.)

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No offence taken, nor was any intended.

In the last decade I've encountered this issue with many menopausal patients - how to get the 'status quo' of the sexual relationship back to what it was - and QUICKLY. Packet of HRT in one pocket, herbal and dietary phyto-oestrogens in the other, and then homoeopathy as the last resort..."How long will it take????"

Forgive my "a spade is a spade" approach. Something has to give somewhere along the line when the reality of change sets in. Of course noone is too old in their 50's. This is an opportunity to bring a new depth of intimacy and honest communication into the sexual relationship - while there is still plenty of physical agility to enjoy it.

However, it often appears the mere act of communicating real needs to a lifelong partner is a bit daunting to many women, and UNNECESSARY pressure is self-imposed regarding treatment strategies in this phase of life. Oftentimes it is the husband who makes demands that his wife stop fooling around with 'alternative therapies' and insists she begin HRT treatment immediately. What is it about this kind of status quo that is worth returning to? Is this so one's partner is not put out, to prevent sulking, tantrums, guilt manipulations? Or is this because the woman's view of her "power" in the relationship is now at risk, and she wants it back regardless of the costs to overall health? Or is there a real sense of loss about losing this aspect of one's physical agility?

General symptoms like vaginal dryness and burning sensations are dealt with EASILY in the homoeopathic context. It is not rocket science homoeopathy. Lubricants will still be required to prevent trauma to the vaginal walls during sexual intercourse.

The promise of health benefits from HRT is at odds with the legitimate fear of the health risks from HRT.
HRT is prescribed 'epidemically' in this country even when bone density scans show no undue risks for osteoporosis.
HRT is prescribed when someone of that age group is a little emotional, depressed, or is under day to day family pressures, or having trouble at work.

None of this may be relevant to the person in question, however, the title of the thread is 'In Your Experience', and this is what I've encountered in my practice.

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