just wondering if ya ever got your reading list and how the studying is coming along?

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Barb -

Thanks for thinking about me, again. I didn't get the Organon - messed up on my order form, but got a few MMs--Allen's Handbook, Vermeulan's Concordant, and Allen's Keynotes. Pulled up Clark's Prescriber from the dust motes; his discussion of Chronic diseases was interesting in terms of the current discussion on another thread about Herscu (didn't he formerly makes some very good chocolate bars?) and his cycles and segments: "Hahnemann took a larger view of the history of a patient. He saw in...skin affections, asthma...or what not, manifesting in the same patient at different times, not so many different diseases, but only so many different manifestations of one continuously acting chronic poison." I don't know nearly enough to really comment on this, except almost intuitively to note that Hahnemann and Herscu were both looking at ways to organize specific pieces of data (symptoms or diseases, cycles or segments) in terms of the whole organism and its history. This may be (I'm not sure, but it might be) the kind of thing I see frequently, in which different authors are talking about essentially the same thing, but using a different focus or different terms to reference parallel or identical ideas.

So, you see, my penchant to theorize is not blunted by the fact that my studies are not really going all that well. I am occasionally encouraged, but more often overwhelmed by the detail and wealth of information. I have moments of insight and appreciation, for example in reading the clinical and descriptive detail included in Allen's Handbook, that is usually missing from most MMs, fleshing out the symptoms, it is almost at times like the prover is sitting there having a conversation with you. And I am beginning to get a sense why the rare and unusual symptoms take precedence over the commonplace: the commonplace really are commonplace, they pop up in all the remedy pictures, so they can't be used to differentiate. But this is hard, too, because I lack the time to devote to this as I did when I was younger, and spent three years reading and re-reading Freud, before allowing myself even to read his closest lieutenants, let alone later revisionists. I'm more confident of my ability to form my own opinions now, so I don't mind taking things out of order, though someone (I can't quite make out his face) is always tugging at my sleeve and screaming in my ear, "Get the Organon, fool! and the Chronic Diseases!" Can't figure out who the devil this guy is, though I think he has a point.

Anyway, I have a new patient, an 18 year old male with what looks like a pretty severe anxiety disorder. I think he needs homeopathy, so I think I will refer him on, probably to doctorleela (hi doc!); I'd love to do the prescribing myself, but really am not prepared. I'll still keep him for therapy, on an intermittent basis to monitor progress and all that, and hopefully learn more about prescribing in the process.

Thanks again for thinking of me, makes me feel connected. Honestly, for the first time in my life I feel I've found a group of people with whom I belong, and, no offense intended, that includes not just the homeopaths, but lots of good people--chiropractors, dentists, naturopaths, reiki masters, etc.--in the alternative health care movement. People who have pierced the veil.

Warm wishes,

Bach
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[ 10. October 2002, 04:16: Message edited by: bwv11 ]

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"The need to perform adjustments for covariates...weakens the findings." BMJ Clinical Evidence: Mental Health, (No. 11), p. 95.... It's that simple, guys: bad numbers make bad science.

Yes, you're right about herscu...he is the guy that used to make chocolate. You must be a distant cousin of mine.

Hi Bach,
Nice to know the latest.
I think you'e moving in the right direction. We all fret over the amount of stuff we don't know. I can tell you that. I wish I could reread a lot of things I did when I was studying, from a fresh and mature perspective. NOT to mention a constant endevour to reread the MAteria MEdica. Well with all our responsibilities, it becomes tough, I can tell you.

WOuld enjoy working with you on your cases. David and I could do the remedies for you and you followup on the anxiety/psycho counselling. Sounds like a good idea to me!

By the way, I'm still midway through my comparison on Staph and Nat Mur. So when its ready, I'll CC to whoever asked. Nothing very exceptional but just to have an idea.

So all the best to you. YEs it feels good to meet kindly souls with a similar mindset!
Warm regards,
doctorleela

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doctorleela -

Sounds good to me, too. I'll e-mail you as things develop, or, if this case doesn't pan out, later on with other referrals.

Sincerely,

Bach
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[ 11. October 2002, 02:43: Message edited by: bwv11 ]

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"The need to perform adjustments for covariates...weakens the findings." BMJ Clinical Evidence: Mental Health, (No. 11), p. 95.... It's that simple, guys: bad numbers make bad science.

I searched everywhere for a proving of chocolate (cacao?) and only found one reference in Allen's MM - I lifted this one statement from it:
"...powdered Cacao well roasted, we ascertained that this beverage produces an excitement of the nervous system similar to that caused by a strong infusion of black coffee..."
Yep.

Oh my God! Now Carol's a flapper!

Snoopy

RDS

Jeremy Sherr also did a proving of chocolate. It can be purchased from here:

http://www.dynamis.edu/dynPublications.htm

Though I suspect some board members may be able to furnish you with further info ...

Hedgehogs anyone?

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A flapper who eats herscu's kisses

I had to go back and see what Carol was before the chocolate proving - the flapper is a 'keystone' change for sure and certainly worthy of at least one Oh my God. But, Snoopy - I have to tell you that I still have a laugh everytime I think of the time you wrote 'check please'.