Is the aim, in homeopathic treatment, to CURE miasms or is this a fallacy in thought? Meaning they cannot be actually cured, but 'controlled' or balanced out in some way?

Are they just a part of us -- tied in some way to our genetics, as was suggested to me recently?

Also, does everyone have a miasm? I read that everyone is afflicted with Psora.

Are the miasms contagious? I read in Chronic Diseases (as I recall it) that Psora is contagious.

I'm dusting off Chronic Diseases now -- haven't read it cover to cover in a while. Austin

Hi Austin
Without going into too much detail, the aim of Homeopathy is to cure diseases, may they be acute, chronic, miasmatic -or not.
For the rest of the question I have to refer you back to the book of the chronic diseases. There you will find most of the answers.

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Miasm was introduced by Hahnemann in his 4th or 5th edition of organon (I read it in a book when I was studying about the history of organon ). When he found that he is not getting proper feedbeek from his own written principles and rules. Then he introduced Miasm concept. He said miasm is the possible cause. That is why his principles / rules / laws are not working. Now you can decide yourself. What is the actual reason of not working homeopathic principle. According to him Miasm is the root cause. I believe in miasm but also trying to find some other reasons too.

To find other reason one has to reject miasm?

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Austin, a useful commentary to help you through the Chronic Diseases, is G. Dimitriadis' booklet.
It costs £10 from Minerva Books.
I did not find it 100% accurate as an interpretation of the CD, but it is the best there is at the moment as a guide. Definitely worth having.

I like talking about miasms because they are so fascinating. I think it is impossible and undesireable to eradicate miasms. We acquire them to facilitate our evolution as a species. If we have knowledge of our most active miasm(s) it points us in the direction of cure when ill. When we are well we can utilise the positive qualities of our active miasms and use them to acquire appropriate tools for living. If we were to live positively with them we use far less energy than we do by going to war with them. This leaves us with more strength to live and evolve. I think it my job as a homoeopath to facilitate the evolution of patients' miasms so that they become less sick and their children inherit a more refined, more evolved version of their parents' misamatic stuff.
Try Daniels Ortega's 'Notes on the Miasms' In my opinion it's the best written on the subject.

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I think I'd agree with Pete.

The thinking behind the miasms, as I understand it, really makes a point of us understanding that

1)believing a disease has a material cause is misleading, and wrong-headed. Notice how difficult it is for this misconception to die, in medicine, and even for some people who practice homeopathy (Naturopaths are very guilty of this, I have to say). Many people still cling to the mistaken idea that if you wipe out the material cause, you'll eradicate the disease...and its just not so, as Hahnemann noticed.

2)the "energy" of a disease is never "lost", it simply continues on over time, especially if it is suppressed; plus, it continues to exert an influence over energy in general. That has an effect on all living things, but in particular on communities of human beings.

3)there is a process of evolution which includes disease and enhanced development resulting from disease resolution. In other words, human beings need ALL the challenges of living in this universe, including disease. Disease does indeed help us grow and evolve--in practice you will see this process with every patient, but especially in children. Also, this challenge and growth process isn't limited to individual people--but it includes everyone...because ultimately everybody is connected to everyone else.

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how does your idea that
"Disease does indeed help us grow and evolve--in practice you will see this process with every patient"
square with hahnemannian view in par 9 of the organon? in this paragraph he states that the purpose of ridding ourselves of disease [including miasmatic disease] is:
"so that our indwelling, rational spirit can freely avail itself of this living, healthy instrument for the higher purposes of our existence."

pete expressed the view that it is
"undesireable to eradicate miasms" and
"I think it my job as a homoeopath to facilitate the evolution of patients' miasms so that they become less sick and their children inherit a more refined, more evolved version of their parents' misamatic stuff."
a homoeopath has ***only*** one aim, as set out in par 1 of the organon.

My question to all of you.

Hahnemann discovered three miasm. In the last century, 16 more miasm were added.

A week ago, I attended a seminar. In which a speaker (wel reputed) was talking about miasm of each remedy.

Will you agree on three or sixteen miasm? Please reply. I am very much depressed.

hi austin.

the theory of miasms proposed by hahneman is one of his best contributions to homeopathy.
he on repeated observation found that esp in chronic diseses even after proper medicine is admisterd and the patient being relieved of his suffering,there occured relapse,then he assumed that there can be 3 reasons for it
1.the similia principle is wrong
2.the medicines are not sufficient enough in number
3.there is something which is blocking the proces of cure.
but the first two were not the reasons, then the third one he thougt as the reason for hampering the curative proses and he named the bloking agent as miasm,which means a pollution.he couldn'tfind any better word than this.he mainly classified them as sycotic,syphilitic and psoric miasms basing on the variety of disease syptoms prevailing in those days.each one of us has miasms in us,but they are kept in dormant state,whenever there is disturb in vital force these miasms get expressed in terms of signs and symptoms peculiar to each of them.the dominant miasm is expressed first.our aim in treatment of such cases is not to cure miasms but to keep them again in their dormant stage.miasms cannot be cured.miasms are contagious since they are transmitted from parents to offsprings.
hope u got answers for ur doubts for further referance read chronic diseses by hahneman and 'notes on miasms'by ortega.

I don't doubt the theory of miasms for those who may have misunderstood my questions.

I have heard several views on them: a)they can be cured, b) they cannot be cured -- only 'controlled' - or made to lie dormant as someone said here.

I wasn't sure which view was correct. Obviously there are varying views to this.
I don't have Ortega's book. Some say it is sound and others say it is rubbish. I won't know until I read it, I guess.
Maybe I will get it, but seeing as I have Chronic Diseases - perhaps that is enough and I simply need to read it and digest it better.

Anna, Thank you for the reminder of paragraph 9. So, is it your understanding that miasms can be cured. Any other reference in Chronic Diseases, in particular that relates to that which might come to mind? I am reading it now so this is not a lazy question .

If miasms are contagious and we have successfully cured them (or only one as the case may be) - then is it so that we have provided a sort of immunity against that particular miasm causing trouble again? Or is one still subject to 'catching' it again because they are contagious? Or does this simply boil down to susceptibility and the patient is no longer susceptible because of sound homeopathic treatment? Probably not worded so well - but maybe someone will understand what I'm asking. Although, I'm still not 100% sure if they are curable or just 'subdue-able'- if that's even a word.

If anyone wants to turn the discussion another way (e.g. the number of miasms; if the theory of miasms is sound or not, etc.) - please just start a new thread on what you want to discuss.

I want to talk about the questions I posted above. Not have a confusing thread. Thanks,Austin.