I have read that it is useful (for babies) to give a dose of Ledum after every vaccination. I am taking my 6 month old son today for vaccination. Just wanted to get opinions on this.

Why vaccinate at all ? It's so detrimental to a child's health.

If you have to for legal purposes, carry a cut open clove of garlic with you and put that on the injection site as soon as you possibly can after the injection. It should draw out the vaccine.

Claudia

I have to go along with Claudia--they're so dangerous! Nowadays, especially in Houston where I can recommend a homeopathic doctor, you can almost always find a sympathetic dr. who will write the school a note saying that the child is allergic and shouldn't be vaccinated. Medical exemptions are always accepted. You are not doing your child a favor by having him vaccinated but you are surely putting him at risk. Brain damage, autism, SIDS, seizures...these are just a few of the risks you're taking having your child vaccinated. All the diseases -- measles, mumps, even polio -- that the vaccines supposedly prevent can all be treated with homeopathy should it ever come to that. But, yes, I would give a dose of Ledum 30C before the vaccination, and after: 3 times a day for 3 days. However, if something specific were to happen that would lead to a particular remedy, like the high-pitched screaming--the "brain cry"--for instance, I would give Apis;
this is what Ricky is talking about; you might give Ledum but the body is indicating that another remedy is needed. So I would say Ledum as long as there are no specific symptoms indicating other remedies. But I hope you'll reconsider.

Snoopy

I don't know about Texas, but here in Oregon we can use "religious exempt" in order not to vaccinate our kids. It's getting popular to do that. After all, it was my strong belief which told me not to do it.
Claudia

Maybe that helps:
Alledged alergic disposition.
History of Astma in the family.
Convulsions.
Croup.
epilepsy in family, alledged.
History of Tuberculosis alledged.
food intolerance alledged.

One of those, or a combination of these usually deterres the caring Doc. from the idea of vaccination.

Otherwise, get him to sign a statemant, that there are no sideffects, and if anything should occure after vaccination he/she take on responsibility personally.
This has worked with our local G.P.'s

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I would never give anything routinely but only if needed.

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hey guys

this topic is becoming timely for me as I am getting pressured to continue vaccinations with my little one and get my eldest her boosters. I have spoken to several MD's in my area who do not vaccinate and recommend we don't vaccinate and they all said that a medical exempt is almost impossible to get. In my state we do not have philosophical exempts but do have religious exempts. The problem with that for me is that I have had my eldest vacinated and the baby had some of her shots (this was before I had a brain apparently) so even here religious exempt will be tricky, in my case. I am so frusterated about all this. The last doctor I spoke with said "well, we sign the medical forms as to what she has had we do not list what she hasn't had and we do it with a regular black ball point pen and then give the form back to you and you can do whatever you want with it, understand me??"

In other words, falsifying medical records is my only chance of getting around this, great.

I am to speak with a lawyer in a few weeks who has experience with this but...arrrgh, so frusterating.

barb

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Barb,

I can't believe you couldn't find a holistic or sympathetic MD who will say your child is allergic or had bad reactions to previous vaccines, etc. I can't believe Chicago could be lagging behind other major cities with its share of holistic doctors. Shana's doctor very readily wrote us an exemption note. She (Shana's dr.) is really into homeopathy and has a homeopath on her staff as well as a reiki master, nutritionist, etc. But, these kind of practices must be in every big city nowadays, maybe you could search for one. If there's a homeopathic study group leader in Chigago, maybe you could give him or her a call.

Snoopy

I like very much the idea of presenting the institution demanding vaccination with a form which states that they have made themselves aware of all the dangers of the vaccines they are imposing, and that they will take all responsibilities for any & all damages which may arise from the vaccines.

If they can sign that form, they you will submit to the vaccines.

Trust me: no one will sign that form!

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Hello all,

Barb, if your state has religious exemption as an option you SHOULD be able to declare that without being a member of a religion whose doctrines speak directly to this. The reason is that the Supreme Court has ruled on more than one occasion that an individual's right to be exempt from an activity does NOT have to come from membership in a church, but that they personally feel led by a "higher authority". These rulings had to do with conscientious objectors but they can have a broad application. I have found them on-line but don't have the site at the tip of my finger. If you are interested I will look in my files tomorrow and get back to you. Admittedly it could put you in a position of taking your fight to a higher level than simply filling out a form, but I have made this known to my local school district and its auditors and in Alaska we have not had to take it any further than that.

One more bit I can share is my experience when I took my daughter to college this fall. They asked for immunization records for all of the early childhood vaccines, which I'm sorry to say she did have for the most part. (I learned about vaccines when my kids were about 9, 6, and 2 and they've not had any since). Luckily for my daughter we had a busy day on campus and I offered to drop off her records to the health center. The woman there said that she was shy a couple of shots and they wanted to give them on the spot. I asked whether they had exemption forms and she snottily asked "for what?". I stated religious and she asked if I had religious objections why did she have any in the first place. I answered simply that those were given before I knew any better and that people do learn and grow spiritually. At that point she was quite cooperative and handed me a release from liablity should my daughter become ill.

Do whatever you have to do to not vaccinate.

regards to all, Kathy