Hoping for some help here.... I originally had some problems with this cat last May. Not eating, eating very painful due to inflammed gums at the back of the mouth. She is wild and I am unable to handle so in the end decided to try depo (steriod) shot. The shot has now waned and if it lasts only a few months I may as well euthanize her and give homeopathy a go with her. I'm going to trap her tonight and place her in confinement. Not much symptoms to go on other than:

*constant pain in the mouth due to rear gum inflamation -very red and raw
*all her teeth have been removed over the years (careful checking makes remaining bone chips unlikely)
*quick to startle, skittish
*small head, large abdomin
*usually a "good" eater
*submissive disposition around other cats (used to living in a colony)
*fair/red complextion with freckles

On the few symptoms I have, would Phos be a fair place to start or can anyone else suggest something better? or perhaps I should start with Arnica and wait for symptoms to become more evident while she is in confinement?
Although she is wild she has accepted the presence of humans but avoids contact with them. She has been confined before and it doesn't appear to cause her undue stress.

Bell would also be a good Idea Kkrista.
The gums are very red and inflammed.

All the best,
doctorleela

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Help! I don't know what to do with this one!! I did try Bell with no results. Since then I have been able to look in her mouth, and I am not seeing a lot of redness (appears more pink). She is obviously salivating (I can see slight residue on her chin). She will attempt to eat (the poor thing is so hungry, hasn't been able to eat for well over a week!), but the slightest lick causes her extreme pain (as does even trying to pry her mouth open or giving remedy). Any chewing action or movement of the mouth appears to cause pain. I detect no odor. I really stress her out by just looking at her (took me forever to catch her!) She has been drinking some water, but not a whole lot.
Does Sil possibly fit here? She has had all the teeth removed, but perhaps something has been left behind? although wouldn't that absess? I also came up with merc, nit-ac, bell, hep, caust, lach, nat-m and sulph
(she is not overly hot, rather probably more on the chilly side)

[ 25. September 2002, 19:33: Message edited by: kkrista ]

Sorry to be answering this one so late in the day, but, yes, Silica sounds like a good idea.

What eventually happened?

Snoopy

Hi Snoopy,
Thanks for answering. I'm not sure what you mean by: What eventually happened? but the cat first came in several years ago. She was live trapped with her kittens along with another mom and her kittens. We believe they were all related. The kittens with the exception of 2, all eventually found homes. 2 are chronically infected with an upper respiratory virus (probably herpes). The 2 moms were spayed and we were going to put them on a farm when one started having problems with chronic-immune related gingivitis. To make a long story short, eventually the teeth were removed and after treating some infections and fatty liver she was fine. About a year later, the cat I'm presently posting on started to also have problems with gingivitus. She also when through a dentistry (although not as severe, they were able to leave her canines) and we thought she was fine. By this time we felt it best to hang on to them rather than send them to a farm, toothless. Then in the spring, this one went off her food and we trapped her and took her into the vet, where they sedated her to find that the back of her mouth was severe with gingivitus, they however detected no infection. After a lot of thought, we decided the best thing to do, because she is not handle-able, was to try a depomedral injection (steriod) and hope for the best. However the injection only lasted for 3 months, and so my options are to trap her every 3 months and give depo injection (the injections will probably kill her within a year) or try to treat her homeopathically (which in the past, even with good homeopathic help, has not been very successful), or just put her to sleep (which is very difficult for me as I have obviously become attached to the cat, even though she won't allow me to touch her!). So in the end, I decided to at least try to help her homeopathically. She is now contained, and if I crawl into her kennel and manage to scruff her, I have been able to give her stuff orally.
So you think Sil might be a way to go? assume with the intensity of the situation that I should start at 200ch?

Well, actually, I would start with a 30C, I find that in acutes, a 30C is often sufficient, but you can always follow with a 200 if you're not satisfied with the 30.

I asked what eventually happened cuz I figured you had already given the Silica.

In gum infections, I've had good luck with Hepar Sulph., Silica, Mercury, Nitric Acid and even Pulsatilla.

Good luck,
Snoopy

Hey Snoppy... looks like we are on the right track! I believe Sil 30ch is helping her, at least she has been eating (not only the soup) but her regular, bony raw food as well! I will monitor her closely to see how long it lasts. Thanks

She went off her food again, shortly after I posted, I followed up with Sil 200 but it hasn't done a thing. Finally in desperation (after her repeated screams of pain as she tried, in vain, to eat) I gave her some Pred last night. She is horribly dehydrated and weak ( it was reletively easy to scruff her and get the pill down). Can somebody please help her?

it could be hepar, but perhaps, a better idea is nat mur. comparing the two in allen, i thought nat mur bore greater resemblance in terms of the gum symptoms, and covers the dehydration better than hepar.
you might try one dose of nat mur 30c in water.
can you give sq fluids too? or is she too wild?

With "screaming with pain" Kkrista, do give Cham a thought. IT should help her quieten down for the next remedy.

doctorleela

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