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Old 15th September 2002, 12:51 PM
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My patient (a labour worker) is feeling cramps in his both leg calf muscles with restlessness. He can't sleep whole night. Ameloration by walking and pressing. Only feel pain at night during sleep. specially after three hours of sleep. Then he generally wakes up and start walking.

I gave him Rhus for few days but did not get result.

Any suggestion. Severe restlessness/Cramping leg calf muscles at night only. amelorate by massaging and pressing. can't sleep whole night.
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Hi Dr. Shah,

Please try Belle. Par. and Please let us know what was the outcome.
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Old 17th September 2002, 12:43 PM
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Rhus tox, calc and carbo s are three major remedies.
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Old 17th September 2002, 01:16 PM
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if the patient is in chronic stage then better to give a high dose of causticum before selecting any one from above remedies.
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I do not see how anyone can prescribe a remedy based on so little. The fact is you have to find out how the person feels about the cramps? Do they want company or prefer to be alone then? What is the worse thing about the cramps? If they say loss of sleep ask them why that is so bad? They may say becasue I am worried about failing at work or not taking care of the family....point is you need to ask what symptoms lead them to do, how symptoms make them feel and what is the worse thing about it for them and if you keep asking these questions baout every symptom you will get more symptoms and will get the whole case.

see my response posted in the topic "questionaire' on a proven method of case taking in the discussion forum.

When someone has a physical complaint don't forget there is a person attached and they have feeings and those feelings need fixed as well as the cramps and what causes them and how they respond to the crapms, etc.

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Old 22nd September 2002, 10:35 AM
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I gave a dose of Causticum cm and on the next day i put the patient on Bal par 30. Today i gave him a dose of 200. Can't say exactly, the condition has been improved? I will wait for one week more.

thanks shashi and aamir

john,

I think I should re admit myself in some homeopathic college. Previously i have been taught that when if you find a peculiar symtom then there is no need of going in detail and ask for so many questions. But I agree with you. Yu are saying right at the moment
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Homeopathy is about much more than a peculiar symptom. It is about the total response the person has to stress, whether it is an injury, the flu, grief...the total response...what has changed about the patient is what needs fixed. See the "Discussion forum about Herscu as I go into some of these issues. In fact I list some important questioning techniques that are easy to use to find what has chnaged and how the person is dealing with and feeling about this new stress in their life.

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If your purpose of taking full case is to find something peculiar in the patient then it is o.k. If you find a peculiar and unique symptom at the start of the case then no need of exploring more in the patient. At the end of each case one has to prescribe on single symptom and if your selected remedy is covering other symptom too then it is good sign. But it is not necessary on each occasion.

jshah,

your patient may be suffering from salt inbalance in the body. Find some suitable biochemic salt like nat -mur
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I am disturbed by your comments as how do you treat the total patient with one peculiar symptom? I would be curious to know what success rate a person has with chronic cases with such a method. If a full case is taken, several peculiar symptoms can be found, but more importantly you can find a pattern or cycle that the patient is stuck in which keeps the body from healing.

Again, what is the worse thing for this patient since the cramps started. If he says he will miss work and you then ask why is that so bad and he says becuase my family will not have the money needed for or I will feel like a failure and when he says it he becomes very sad that would be very helpful to know or instead he acts angry when you ask a simple logical question and you then ask if he has been irritated by others who disrutb him it could be a simple Nux-v case. But to base a case on a few symptoms seems to be not treating the whole patients response to a new stress and could easily miss the remedy needed.

Will be interested in hearing what cures this person.

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