Hi

My freind is having a hysterectomy for cervical cancer and has no access to a homeopath pre-operatively. Would arnica initially beginning the night before surgery, followed by hypericum and callendulla post operatively be an acceptable regime till she gets a consultation? (30c potencies)

Thnxs

I think the best thing to do is to prescribe as needed--and not give something BEFORE you have any symptoms to go on.

Arnica can be good post-surgery but Bellis Perenis is also an excellent remedy for bruising/surgical damage specifically on soft tissue.

Phosphorus will also come in handy for ailments which may arise from the use of anaesthesia (vomitting, dizziness/lightheadedness, continued loss of sensation).

Divina

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Hi Davina

THnx. I did think of bellis perenis as its more indicated for pelvic surgery and will get some phos too (she has had nausea after a previous anaesthetic) would 30c be adequate? I have seen post op wounds heal so quickly with arnica though, in ppl who have brought it to hospital and had shorter admissions.
You wouldnt start the remedy immediately post op to help the wound healing??

I always give Arnica 30C daily starting three days before surgery. If there is extreme fear, then I give Aconite the night before instead of Arnica.

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Thnxs Shirley

Would you give arnica alone for the wound healing? There are so many possibilties how do you decide without prescribing constitutionally?
What about arnica and bellis??

thnx Lorna

Before hand for fear, there are Aconite - resltess, predicts hour of death, Gelsimium - bad effects from fright, Arsenicum - fear of death, fear of being alone. Usually Aconite will do the job. If no more than normal nervousness, I stay with Arnica. If found that giving Arnica before hand lessons bleeding during surgery and decreases risk of side effects from anesthetic.

If there are are no particular problems following surgery, I would give Arnica. For reaction to anesthetic, Phos - especially if headache or vomiting or Nux - if feels just 'not with it' or slow to come out of it; pain & soreness, Arnica; post-operative gas pain, Raphanus - abdomen distended, hard, no gas comes out, vomiting, loss of appetite, Carbo veg - gas goes up, Lycopodium - gas goes down, China - gas goes nowhere, no relief from passing gas, internal coldness, loss of fluids; for paralysis of bladder, Causticum; for problems with incision, Staph.

For specific problems, you would need to read the MM to determine which to use. I've never used Bellis-p after surgery, but it does work for injuries, so it might be a good choice instead of Arnica, but I think the Arnica decreases the bleeding more. I had someone once who needed Ferrum Phos. The white line around the lips clued me in. The above is just a general guide. I wish your friend well.

[ 08. September 2002, 14:00: Message edited by: sreischman ]

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Shirley Reischman

Well-- did you tell your friend, that Cervical cancer can be treated homeopathically?
operation might not be neccessary at all and treatment could start straight away, if you consult a competent homeopath. Removal off the womb does not stop methastasis.

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For hysterectomy I always prescribe Arnica 30 just before the operation and another just after, then continue with arnica 30 3x for the following day. After this Bellis Perenis 6 three times a day for 2-3 weeks heals the internal bruising brilliantly. If there is any problem with the cut healing I would also prescribe Calendula 6. However in this case it is very possible that Staphisagria will be needed at some point.

Re Hans's comment , I would imagine that if a hysterectomy has been advised the cervical cancer will be a stage iv+ and has gone too far to risk soley starting homeopathic treatment at this late stage. Dr Ramakrishnan advises the removal of the cancer if possible and then homeopathic treatment. According to Ian Watson the most common rememdy nedded for cervical cancer is Arg, Nit. I only found out about this after prescribing it to a woman constitutionally after having laser treatment for precervical cancer.

Hopefully the cancer your friend has will be completely removed by the operation and then she will prevent any further problems with homeopathy.

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Thnx Ricky and Hans

Her tumour is 4cms therefore borderline for surgery so the medics said could also have been treated with either chemo or radiotherapy. She requested hysterectomy first, wisely I think, this will then be followed by an adjuvant chemo or DXT. I was aware that there are remedies for cervical cancer but as Ricky says I think it is too advanced for homeopathic treatment alone.

I will certainly give her some arnica to start taking the day before phos to have at hand as she is usually sick after GA and get some bellis to take after that.

She will see a homeopath after surgery so I`m just trying to help in the meantime without doing any harm with my limited knowledge!!
Thnks so much for all your input

Dear Ricky

I don’t share the views of Dr Ramakrishnan, claiming to be a homeoapth.
Hahnemann writes in the par.;52:

‘’There are but two principal methods of cure: the one based only on accurate observation of nature, on careful experimentation and pure experience, the homeopathic (before me never designedly used) and a second which does not do this, the heteropathic or allopathic. Each opposes the other, and only he who does not know either can hold the delusion that they can ever approach each other or even become united, OR TO MAKE HIMSELF SO RIDICULOUS AS TO PRACTISE AT ONE TIME HOMOEOPATHICALLY AT ANOTHER ALLOPATHICALLY, ACCORDING TO THE PLEASURE OF THE PATIENT; a practice which may be called criminal treason against divine homeopathy.’’

I cannot confirm Ian Watson’s claim of Arg-n being the main remedy in cases presenting with Cervical cancer.

My experience is, that usually different remedies are needed in succession, depending on the development of the case.

I do not share the view, that up from a certain class of Pap, operation is the sole option.
I am opposed to the view, that removal of the womb is a wise decision, as by the removal of the womb, only the outside expression of the malady is taken away, but the reason for its previous appearance and persistence is unaltered, even worse, it is deprived of its primary site. This leads into spreading to other sites, as daily experience teaches us in most of the cases. And furthermore: what do you achieve when you prune the roses in the garden? – Quicker and more vigorous growth in the future.

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