We had a wild female siamese give birth to 4 kittens a week ago. Following the birth (pre-birth gave arnica in water)the cat was vomitting, having diarrhea and although thirsty would not eat. I gave her secale 30ch in water and then a plussed dose after 12 hours. She was improving (no vomit, but still "softer stool", eating a little, drinking less). I stopped giving secale but within 24 hours, mom had slipped back, so I gave her plussed dose and have been giving it up until yesterday. The cat still has very loose stool, drinking is normal, appetite greatly increased (prefers raw food)which is good and normal. I did supplement the kittens a bit while mom was not eating, but they appear to be getting enought milk now. Any suggestions on what next, I was thinking puls, but I don't have much experience treating mom with nursing kittens. Mom is really fearful (although she has accepted my presence), her abdomin feels bloated and tight, the diarrhea is very soft and mushy, strong odor, and yellowish brown. She has 2-3 bouts of soft stool a day and usually 1-2 pees. Her kittens may also be having softer bowel movements (or she is not cleaning them too well). Her appetite is good and thirst normal.

Do you think it could be worms ??
Funnily enough my 8 week old kitten has just had the same symptoms and it was because of worms.

This is rather a practical hint from my own experience: With siamese cats one should always think of a lack of calcium due to malabsorption. It is a genetic defect which can lead to a special kind of osteomalacia (symptoms are e. g. hysteria, fearfulness, in young cats it can produce weak or deformed bones, birth is often difficult as the mother's pelvic bones are not fully developped and too narrow).
If nobody else has a better idea you should perhaps give it a try: calc-c in low potency, 3 times a day. It is in the rubrics general complaints after birth, fearfulness after birth, abdomen bloated/tight.
Another hint: siamese kittens should remain with their mother as long as possible, as they grow very slowly and need mother's milk for sound bone development.
Please excuse my clumsy English, but I am too lazy to look into the dictionnary ...

Ilse

Thanks for your reply Hoppit. No doubt the mother probably has worms but worm infestation is usually not a huge concern in adults and I don't believe her symptoms are a direct result of worms (and the kittens if infected with worms are in early untreatable stages of worm cycle). I also do not want to give her a dewormer because those toxins will end up in her milk and may be harmful to the kittens. Hopefully if I can find the correct remedy for her, her body will then naturally repel the worms if they are present and then we can deal with any worm problems in the kittens when they are closer to 8 weeks.

Thank-you Ilse for your reply, I am pretty certain that everything is fine in that regard. She is a cross siamese and her delivery was short and sweet, she cleaned everybody up well. Calc has "come up" after reporatising, but not as strongly as others. The cat is also feral, her fear is not based on the birthing experience, rather her non human contact (so I don't believe it should be considered a "new" symptom). And yes our organization does not alo Siamese to go until they are 10-12 weeks or longer if they are really small and slow to mature. Thanks

How about sepia? It came first in my repertorization - but with so few symptoms it is not more than a guess.
Glad the little family is in good hands!
Ilse

HI Kkrista.
Ok this time I decided to try Phatak as there does not seem to be many chracteristics:
So:
Stool Mushy: Bry, Chin, Nit Ac, Onos, Phos, Puls, Rhus T, Sulph
Abdomen distension (common with the above remedies): calc, CHIN, lyc, Nat mur, nux vom, Phos, Rhus t, Sulph, verat
Appetite increased: Calc, Chin, Lyc, Nat Mur, Nux Vom, Phos, Pul, Sul, VErat

With the absence of other sympotms, I think CHina would be a good choice. Other possible remedies are Phos, Sulph and Verat. Since she's active, even RHus may be indicated.
IT would help to detect a possible cause.

All the best,
doctorleela

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Hi Dr. Leela!
Mom had a normal stool last night, I thought we might be done, but this morning she had yellow-brown, mushy, smelly diarrhea with little white specks in it. I did give her another plussed dose of secale, as this was helping her before, but in retrospect "what was I thinking???".
Difficult to say what the problem might be. She did have some post-partum bleeding (not much,a drop her or there, considered normal). Although I was not present at the birth, all afterbirth was "cleaned-up", I assume consumed by mom, but I can't say for sure that the last one was expelled, but I don't expect that to be the problem. Mom suffered a little trauma before the birth. She had been "live trapped" and had scraped up her nose and face trying to break out of the trap. I did give her some comercial food last night, perhaps that alone may have caused the stomach upset. It may be best to just give her "real" food, it may resolve the situation itself? The kittens have just opened their eyes and appear to be doing well after "week 1". I am anxious to get her into a foster home for the kitten's safety (isolation from possible disease), but at the same time I don't want to send her off until I'm sure she will be OK and produce good quality milk. She had rather a lot of urine overnight (not usual for her so far).

Hi Kkrista,
THe white specks sound interesting since someone mentioned worms!

Anyway, I think that's an Ok reaction to secale. Especially if she's eating well and passing adequate quantities of urine.

May as well wati and see.
Warm reagrds,
doctorleela

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