[ 13. August 2002, 14:39: Message edited by: Kalimom ]

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Not near enough to prescribe on but I don't think anyone else is still up at this hour...... so please understand this is just a suggestion. Having nothing to use other than possibility of shock, cold, wet....I suggest Acon. Dissolve one pellet, 30C if available, into about 4 ounces of water, give small amount by syringe, 1 cc will do. Repeat as often as every five to fifteen minutes if in crisis, ceasing and waiting with each improvement, if there is one. Stir water briskly about 10 times before each dose. One dose may be enough. Or you may just need a few doses with several hours in between. Gauge as best you can if she begins to improve, then slip back.....then give another dose.

If she is icy cold to touch, temp low, sudden sinking and pulse thready/weak you might try Camph.

If she is burning hot/fever, you might try Bell.

Breathing labored could be Carbo V or Ant t, Phos....but post back and hopefully a homeopath will check in.

If she seems in pain and may have been in an accident, might try Arn.

More information should be given as soon as possible including vitals. Norms are: temp 100.4 to 102.5, pulse 160-240 per min, resp 20-30 per minute. Seeking hot or cold, feels hot or cold to touch, labored breathing, rattles or rales, urine/stool, anxious, thirst or not......anything you can think of to post would be beneficial.

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I see Dr. Leela is currently on the BB. Hopefully she will see your post soon and offer her qualified opinion.

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Hi Gpm and Kali mom,

Aconite is a very good first aid suggestion. I think a dose of Arnica in low potency would be good too.

The next thing is actually supportive treatment - warm milk, keeping her warm and fed, and some TLC.

In a couple of hours we could be more sure of what she would need next.

All the best,
doctorleela

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Hi Kali,
Hope your kitty is doing better. Heavy Flea infestation can easily cause anemia (the fleas are literally sucking the "life's blood" out of her. Bathe her using dish soap, keep it on once lathered for 10 minutes (it kills the fleas)and then rinse well. Brush her often to disturb any remaining fleas and clean her sleeping area etc. You can bathe her once a week for a maximum of 3-4 weeks. Flea infestation is usually just a symptom of something more serious, healthy animals repel fleas on thier own. Good luck.

[ 13. August 2002, 14:41: Message edited by: Kalimom ]

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Do you mean you used a flea insecticide on her last night, when she was found wet and weak? Just (!) on top of her head/brain or all the way down the spine as recommended by the manufacturer? Was she in the same living area as the dog that had the same treatment before finding her wet/collapsed last night? Did you use the same substance, is it also for cats?

I think it's a bit late for Acon. Did you give anything at all to her last night other than pesticides? I really doubt her initial problem last night was due to fleas. She had something else more serious going on already and it could have been a reaction to the same stuff used on the dog and being around it.

Cat's purr from pain and with worry, not just from the pleasure of seeing you. Checked her temp? Resp rate? Put your ear under one of her front legs and listen to her heart, count the rate, listen for lung sounds. Check hot/cold to touch, wants comfort or not, to see if she prefers heat or cold, fill two bags, one hot one cold and see if she draws toward one.....or put heating pad next to her, see if she moves toward it. Slight pressure over the bladder area, the kidney area, see if she shows pain response or if you can feel under her, between her legs...for the bladder.....see if full, hard and gives her discomfort. Don't squeeze too firmly.

I hope Dr. Leela, Snoopy or someone is around to advise you tonight. Should base prescription on poisoning....and read Melin's thread about Screamin Mimi. I would think in lines of Ars, Nux V, Carbo V, Camph, Op......now is the time to use Rescue Remedy while you are figuring out which remedy to use.

Look at the ingredients of the poison used and see if there is a number to call. Call their emergency number. Call Cornell University feline/vet poison hot line. Post back the info on the package with the active ingredient, in case a homeopath checks in. These killer substances contain a variety of things including permethrin, methoprene and something called Biolar, an insect growth regulator. Washing (especially just rinsing off) animal really doesn't remove it entirely, that's the point....very long lasting.

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Dear Kali and others.
The ars, camph carb-b and op are good sugestions. Also think of nat-fluor. I have dosed many animals with homoeopathic rxs and have found that the easiest apart from radionics is to place a drop of the rx on or in one nostril after they have breathed out this saves trying to open a reluctant mouth. If a dropper isnt handy the dose disolved in water and a few drops on a teapsoon and droped onto the nose will sufice. This drop dose works from camels to birds.
Kind regards
Rick

Thank you,

I have decided to try and find a homeopathic vet in my area, even if i have to drive. I am such an idiot that i poisoned my own cat. I don't trust my judgment at all anymore as well as the fact that i'm so upset right now. btw, i can't find the hr (or hear it) she seeks warmth and wants comfort. She has always purred alot and meowed when she sees a member of the family.

I was just trying to help her by getting the fleas off of her. How stupid i am, i knew better if i had stopped to think

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Well, you are not alone if you think you did something contrary to helping your kitty. I would be willing to bet almost everyone has done something they regret, thinking at the time it was the best choice. I can tell you for certain that I have long list of having done terribly wrong, damaging, deadly things. I think we do the very best with what ability and knowledge we have to work with at that moment. If only we could have hindsight *before* we do things.

I hope you find a qualified homeopathic vet. But, if you have a vet you are accustomed to, have some background of confidence in, it might be just as well to take her there first, without having to drive so far. You can have the tests done that will determine what is wrong. (And it could very well turn out that it has not one thing to do with the flea stuff!)

Post the results back here along with the history and current symptoms, if you want. There are a couple of very fine homeopaths who would help, every bit as much as an unknown homeovet, quite likely. If you have a diagnosis, it will give them more to prescribe on.

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