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Old 28th July 2002, 05:05 AM
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Yes, Leela is prescribing for me and she suggested hyos and bell for my cough. I started the hyos last week and it improved my cough initially and then it got worse again. I took it again probably around tues or wed. and cough got much better but not gone. I have had amaurosis before separately and with migraines(about12-14 years ago) but my migraines used to come in late afternoon and get worse till about 8 or 9, I'd fall asleep and be fine in morning.But my migraines would many times be preceded by the amaurosis. I will try to the bell 30c. Thanks. I'll let you know fairly shortly as soon as this last nat mur wears off.
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I believe Leela has been lucky enough to have been sleeping through all this. I don't know the difference between those things you mentioned fuga partialis..??? First I lose my vision...peripheral is what I call it. When my eyes are shut sparks, lots of white lights and sparks. This actually happened a couple of months ago....before I took the hyos...so its something that has been coming back. If I don't move and keep my eyes shut when it first starts...after 30 to 45 minutes it will stop and I can go on as normal. But in the far past...it would sometimes lead to the headache, right sided...sometimes with stomach upset and always with a metallic taste in my mouth the next day. Not this time...the headache came after I woke up...and a terrible pain in head, not like I've experienced before...when I coughed even ever so slightly.
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Carol,

If succussing and sipping nat-mur is helping, you can keep doing it as long as it affords relief.

you can even raise the potency by pouring most of it out, filling back up and succussing 40 times.

If nat-mur gives out on you, I agree with Belladonna.

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The vision problems are a slightly closer fit to Bell than Hyos, as is the head pain on coughing. Have you taken the Bell yet?
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I think if Nat mur were the right remedy, it would have held longer than 20 minutes and when the pain came back, it would have been less intense.
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Poor Carol,
Yes I've been nicely sleeping through all this!
And did not realise how desperate things could have become. The last I heard from Carol was that she felt fluey and wanting to throuw up - a bug from her firend.

Anyway, if everyone is happy with BEll for the moment, she could try a dose. It was my second choice after the Hyos. By the way the hyos worked marvelously for the cough which has been around for quite a few weeks ever since she went on vacation.

So David I don't see any suppression here. Just 2 doses of Hyos 30 almost a week apart. (The mental state fitting perfectly, definitely not with Bell.)
IF she's got a bad tooth, she's got one, that can't be helped. She needs another acute remedy. (How does a bad tooth mean suppression? - I can understand about the migraneous headache - which anyway is an old complaint coming back with much less intensity.)

Things get a bit complicated with trying out too many remedies one after another. One never knows when the sympotms are from one of the remedies instead! And Carol is very sensitibve to remedies.

So well anyway if she got so desperate with pain(on a weekend too) it cannot be helped.
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Well, I took the belladonna about 25 minutes ago. and I sat in my chair and waited and waited and waited. Finally I got up to brush my teeth and after I brushed my teeth I noticed the pain was gone. So I'm going to bed...if it comes back...I don't know what to do, take the nat mur which has now been succussed 40 times or repeat the bell succussed? Thanks everyone for your help.
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Carol, it looks like Bell. worked. Go with the Belladonna first if the toothache comes back.

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I don't think there was any suppression here - I was just unclear of the meaning of all these symptoms, and whether they were new or old. In fact, it does sound like direction of cure, and Belladonna often follows Hyos anyway.

How nice for us all to agree.

I too considered Coffea as a possible choice.
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Leela, I'm the one who mentioned suppression. But after hearing more of what had happened, I don't think the Hyos suppressed.
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