We just recently took in a cat and I have been trying to stop her diarhea ever since!
* emaciated, eyes sunken
* dehydrated from constant fluid loss
* little to no thirst
* slightest amount eaten yields immediate diarhea
* stool is watery, brown, completely liquid
* gushing, flatulance, projectile, spurting evacuation
* odor is normal
* cat is restless and very peevish / vocal
* very little appetite, although she does appear to want to eat
* old cat, teeth elongated and "old" looking, no inflamation noted in mouth; appears OK
* suspect system failure (kidney most likely)
The fellow who found her called back to enquire after her and I suspect it was his cat, he confirmed that the least amount eaten went straight out the other end.
I started her on China, which seemed to help her appetite but not her diarhea; went to Ars which she aggrevated on (mental symptoms, very restless, unable to console her) I dosed her down and relieved the agrevation but not the diarhea; last remedy Lyc with no change of anything. I'm stuck... any sugestions? The China given was at a very low potency (6ch), I'm wondering if I should go back to it at a higher potency as its the only good fit I can find.

Try carbo veg 30c.

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Krista,
Dr. B is someone to listen to! You are probably already doing this, trying to get some digestive enzymes into her. Acidophilus and some pectin, they come combined in a powder/capsule and individually. Maybe even some plain yogurt with live bacteria. I don't think that would interfere with the remedy.
Good luck.

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Thanks for the suggestion: I also should have noted in my description:
* not much urine
* no blood in feces or urine, no irritation of the anus etc.
* skin and coat is excellent (?!!)
* diarhea is very sudden and she will soil her blanket as she takes the 2 steps to her litterbox, tremendous and sudden urge to evacuate the bowels
Question about carbo veg... does it in fact assist the action of Lyc? and does this mean that I can dose the cat without any intermitant remedy?
GPM: the cat is not really eating so it has been difficult to supplement her, although I was quite hopeful when she did take a little of the raw bones this morning as this is usually tremedously helpful in that it produces a somewhat constipated effect.

DEar Kkrista.
Both China and Ars cover her sympotms very well. So if China and Ars did not work separately, the remedy is China Ars. Give her repeated doses of 6C (4 -6 hourly or as required) otherwise a couple of doses of 30.

Beoricke and Clarke have the best description. I've had very good results with this remedy in diorrhea when it was the chief complaint and both symptoms of arsenic and china.

ALl the best,
doctorleela

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Thank-you Dr. Leela,
I did have the opportunity to check on the cat and her diarhea has now changed, it is"
*still water and liquid but yellow with small particles and some blood and a whole lot of smell
* gums etc have also been somewhat purple-ish in colouring
I gave her the carbo veg (30CH) but then had a thought that perhaps the Lyc had changed the stool? I was wondering about China-ars and I'm glad you mentioned it. I did see some improvement with China and the ars definitly hit her -I will need to order the remedy though, but my feeling is that you are right (she fits china so nicely). I will not have china-ars until tomorrow, but I think the kitty may need a little break anyway, I'm just concerned about her not eating and the constant fluid loss. There have been a lot of remedies given and I'm afraid the case might get clouded, should I use another remedy before the china-ars to kind of clean up the picture (concerned about Lyc effects?)

[ 24 July 2002, 19:48: Message edited by: kkrista ]

I haven't known Podophyllum to fail when the diarrhea is yellow.

Aloe s. could also be tried.

That doesn't mean Dr. Leela's suggestions shouldn't be taken.

Snoopy

China ars is a good suggestion. But I think you should not change the medicines on the fly. When the vitality is low, even the right remedy may take some time and more than 1 dose to show significant changes.
I suggest before hopping over to chin-ars, repeat carbo-veg a few more times.

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You Know Dr. B,
We use the 30 and 200 potency so easily over here (India)and repeat it so often (esp 30 C). I somehow feel there is some difference in preparations with our pharmacies and those that are now available internationally.

The 30C that most of the people on the board and internationally use is very potent. I've found that single doses of 30C are enough to notice a reaction and whether the remedy is going to help or not especially in acute cases. It took me a couple of cases to realise that, as here we repeat 30's OD, bd, etc.

I almost never repeat a 200, adn only rarely repeat a 30, if the vitality is good and there is no reaction.

Poor vitality, definitely no repetition, either the 30 works or the remedy is not indicated.
Anyway, this is my experience, so I just thought I'd share with you.

Regards,
doctorleela

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Hello Dr. Leela,
I do agree with you that homeopaths here in India use the 30 and 200 potency(or any potency for that matter) too often. Too frequent repetitions. But I am not one of those. And I don't think medicines prepaped here in India are any different from those prepaed anywhere else. I get the same results. And the repetition depepnds on so many conditions and even on the medicine that you are using. I have seen chronic cases improving for months on just 1 dose of 30c because the medicine was deep acting enough and the patient was strong enough to take the right course once the initial nudge is given. And on the other hand there are cases in which we have to move up the potency ladder quickly to extract everything possible, because the medicine is short acting or not deep acting enough.

But when the vitality goes down, it can produce two phenomenas or may be two stages. In the first stage, the body starts reacting strongly and wrongly, ie; it becomes hypersensitive. And the second stage when the vitality is very low the body does not respond to any stimuli easily. In the first case, if a medicine ir right, it will produce good reaction with one dose. But in the second case, initially some frequent repetition may be required to produce a reaction strong enough to carry on the healing process. In debilied cases repetitions may help to maintain the good work that a medicine has started till the vitality of the person becomes strong enough to do the good work itself.

I thought in this case, due to the old age and debility, the cat is moving towards the second stage of no/low reaction. And that is the reason I suggested to test a medicine well before switching on to other...lest a good medicine is not given a good chance!
Just my thoughts!

warm regards,

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