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Old 5th July 2002, 03:19 AM
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Okay

I have asked and asked but apparently this method is a deep, dark secret because no one wishes to share. Can someone, ANYONE, please post a description of this method, how it differs from other methods and perhaps post a case using the method - so I can friggin see what the (bleep) it is about???????

Sheesh, like trying to pull teeth.

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Barb. I understand that you are really keen to learn stuff, but please consider the fact that people are busy with their lives too. I am in the middle of trying to move house here. There is no deep, dark secret about the method, on the contrary, folk regularly devote chunks of their time to contribute information on the subject to others, and there is plenty to read up on too. The actual teaching of the method is a job of work in itself.
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Old 5th July 2002, 10:44 AM
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dear barb,

if you continue with that level of craving for info you will soon be expert.

the first thing is to obtain a copy of the major text of this method which is boenninghausen's therapeutic pocketbook. this is the step that is the most difficult for a non-german reader because there is no 100% reliable version in english. this is why hans weitbrecht translated all the rubrics in the german edition [which is available] into english.
you can order a german copy from von der lieth publishers and ask hans for a free copy of his index. then go through book writing in the rubric titles.
at that point you have a working text that is accurate.
until very recently i was of the opinion that the dimitriadis TBR was good enough as an english translation but new information suggests the re-grading of some of the rubric might be misleading.

also you need boger's boenninghausen repertory which contains boenninghausen's other repertories plus, unfortunately some work by other homoeopaths, but it is the best available at the mo.
also you need the original provings:
hahnemann's materia medica pura and
hahnemann's chronic diseases

also allen's handbook.

using these tools it is possible to practice in the way nearest to hahnemann's method. using the therapeutic pocketbook to guide you to the remedies that might be appropriate to a case [see hans weitbrecht's website
boger-boenninghausen.com
which explains the method of using the therapeutic pocketbook gradings.]
then compare the possible remedies to the actual proving symptoms. so the whole process becomes as unmediated by intervening interpretations as possible.
with these tools you can do the kind of exact matching of disease symptoms to proving symptoms that is authentic homoeopathy.
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HI BArb,

Relax! ITs not the end of the world.

We were taught the Boenninghausen's approach in college, used it in quite a few cases, but only a handful of doctors used it in their practice. I found it a simple method of repertorization and reaching a remedy and was helpful, often. I kind of liked its tendency to generalization of sympotms, modalities and concomittants. I have a ew favourite rubrics in this repertory that I know we wont find in a Kents.

I'm no match for all these experts here on this method though, and so have just been a silent spectator to all the discussion. BUT to tell you the truth, there is as much negativity and criticism to this method of treatment and repertorization in India as the Boennighaussen supporters on this BB have towards the Kentian.

I take everything with a pinch of salt, as its each one to his own personal experience. I think ANna has given you a good hint on how to get started if you are so interested. IF you buy the BB repertory at least, you can start by seing how the sections are divided and compare the differences with the KEnt's repertory. That should give you some idea about it, before you begin studying it in earnest.

Again I say, it is a very useful approach (almost restricted to 'polychrests'), but not at the expense of "thrashing" everything else and being the "only authentic homeopathy(!)".

Personally, I've had more fun analysing cases and treating patients with great results, the "other" ways!

Warm regards,
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Old 5th July 2002, 01:48 PM
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Okay guys thanks for posting.

Louise, I understand abou having a life and time constrictions - believe me - but I must say folks sure seem to have the time to post about the benefits of this method and the falseness of other methods. SO again I plead if anyone can just give a hint, a clue, a smidgen, a peck, a crumb, a grain, a sliver of what this method is about and why it is different I'd be most grateful.

Anna,
Thanks for the advice on how to start studying this method. Simone actually gave me the same great advice when I first posted on how to study this method. The trouble is it is a little daunting to get all those materials and the thought of using books in other languages and the time needed to go through and use the translation etc, not sure if I want to put forth the effort since I don't know what Boenninghausen is about and why it is different from other methods.

Dr. Leela
As always - thank you.

So, if anyone is so inclinded to just explain it - please??? I am not asking for a whole class teaching here just what it is about. I know there are remedy relationships, gradings (1-5?) and perhaps using mostly polychrests - but don't know what this means or how it would be applied.
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Dear Barb
There is no explicit Boenninghausen method, different from what Hahnemann method. Boenninghausen put into practice all the principals and rules anchored in the Organon.
Boenninghausen however created a unique kind of a repertory , the TT.
It found the appraisal of Hahnemann in a front up version.
It is unique, because each rubric can be freely combined with every other one in the book. Unique to him is also the meaning of the grading see article on the B-b website.
The difference between Hahnemann und Kent is, that Hahnemann throughout the Organon speaks of the disease to be cured, the diseasepicture giving the only indication for the remedy to be selected, whereas Kent speaks: the person not the disease!!. From that point kent and followers till the todays homeopaths go down a different road.
There are a whole lot of other differences in all areas.

I am a bit under timepressure, as I am onto some discovery, which I will share as soon as I can.
As I said on the other tread—it takes the 4 years to accomplish the homeopathy practised by Hahnemann and Boe.

So long---
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Hans,
In Boenninghausens Original Preface included in my Therapuetic Pocketbook translated by Allen, Boenninghausen mentions translations in English and French that he approved...do you know what happened to these translations? Denise
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Hallo denise
the english version was done by Stapf but contains a lot of misstakes. Within a year, 3 new english versions were on the marked. these were: Hempel, oakie, Laurie.
All early english versions miss at least 17 rubrics compared to the original.
Hering writes in Analytical Therapeutics (16)
"The english translation (of Boes PB 1846) by Stapf has many errors in the names, and was reprinted here with all of them. The errors in the language were partly corrected by Okie and many more by Hempel; Lauries translation was made from the french (of Roth), in Paris, and though somewhat better in the arrangement, was not free from errorrs and had besides many omissions."
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Hi BArb,
Just get hold of the repertory, and read up a few articles from Hans site to get a philosophical grounding.
I'll see if I can guide you from there.
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Old 7th July 2002, 04:04 AM
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Dear Barb,

With Hans's translation of the index it's not that difficult to investigate the Theurapeutic Pocket book, I've bought one from the German publisher mentioned and browsed it with the help of the index and found it quite understandable after all, only I don't know enough of the remedies so far, so I decided to stick to what the Devon school is teaching about the remeides and all for the moment, and once I feel a bit more confident about these I'm thinking to work on Boenninghausen. ALso I think Hans's articles should be very useful. Really, it seems one has to kind of discover one's own homeopathy, that's the point, it seems, as no mechanical procedure can exist in the face of the individualization (if you see what I mean).

Also, please, don't be discouraged by the languages! (there's not much of German, in fact, much less, than I expected, at least.) Once you work it all through you'll feel much more confident in a lot of other things as well, it's really worth it!

Best of luck!

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