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Old 26th June 2002, 03:22 AM
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does anyone know if Perrier which is "naturally carbonated" from the spring has the same effects as other carbonated drinks? Does it leech the calcium from the body, etc?
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Old 26th June 2002, 10:16 AM
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dear barb, i think 'naturally carbonated' is just a marketing term. no water comes from the ground fizzy after all. so it would have the same effect as all the others.
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I don't know if this type of water is "natural" or not (seems to me that it would be completely possible for water to be "naturally" carbonated...as the distinction between natural carbonation and additional carbonation must be made by law on marketing materials)...but it seems to me that there must be an additional ingredient with phosphoric acid before the bones would be compromised, as they say happens with soda pop.

One other thing: people have been drinking this kind of water for centuries and have managed to avoid suffering from it; many people put this type of water out as "table water" at every meal, and drink it all their lives, never suffering from the damages described.

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Old 26th June 2002, 06:01 PM
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yes, perhaps perrier and any alkaline bottled water is fine with respect to calcium - it depends if fizzy is bad in the first place, which i don't know.

soft sweet drinks such as coke are made from purified [softened] water which then has acids added so it is acidic and therefore dissolves calcium. no question they are bad, but that reasoning has nothing to do with their being fizzy.

i don't know if fizzy per se is bad, relating to the equilibrium between the CO2 and the acid and base in solution.

water does not gush out of the ground fizzy

by the way, san pellegrino is a delicious water, finer than perrier. but i don't know if such a highly mineralized water is advisable.
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Old 26th June 2002, 07:52 PM
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Anna and Divia,

Thanks for the replies. Does anyone know if animals drink from the spring they get this perrier from?
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Actually, water does come from the ground naturally carbonated. Here is the legal definition (meaning the restrictions placed on a water bottling company, like Perrier, before it can claim to be selling a "naturally carbonated" water:

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Q: What's the difference between club soda, seltzer water and sparkling water? -- Jeff

A: Whether you are stocking a bar or just want to know what you are drinking, here is the 411 on some of the bubbly waters you have to choose from.

Soda water, also referred to as club soda, seltzer water, or just plain carbonated water, is flavorless water that has been highly charged with carbon dioxide, which gives it effervescence. It also contains a small amount of sodium bicarbonate, which, because it's alkaline, works well to neutralize an acidic stomach.

Historically, seltzer is a flavorless, naturally effervescent water that takes its name from the town of Nieder Selters in the Weisbaden region of Germany. Human-made seltzer was introduced in the latter half of the 18th century when carbon dioxide was injected into water. The original seltzer was the forerunner to soda pops, which came into being in the 1840s when flavors were added to seltzer water.

The key with sparkling water is to carefully read the label to know what you are really drinking. The definitions differ mildly, but there is a distinction between the various products available. It is marketed as carbonated water or sparkling water, but here's the breakdown of what to look for: when a label reads, "naturally carbonated mineral water" or "naturally sparkling mineral water" it is natural mineral water whose carbon dioxide content is from the same or adjacent source as the water itself. A label that reads "carbonated natural mineral water" or "sparkling natural mineral water" is natural mineral water to which carbon dioxide of an origin other than the water table or deposit from which the water comes has been added. And finally, a label that just reads "carbonated or sparkling water" refers to water (not necessarily mineral) to which carbon dioxide of an origin other than the source water has been added.
I believe the spring for Perrier comes from an underground aquifer...(there are other definitions restricting the description of the springs as well...) so it is probably not likely that animals drink from this water. It would seem most practical, if a company were to actually bottle at the terminus, that they would locate their facilities right at the spring.

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Dear friends,

Well, we do have a source, natural spring of water not far from here that people go to fill their PET cans from, and it's very much carbonated and it bubbles out of the earth just like that, sparkling.

I have not been there myself yet and when I go there I'll ask the owner about animals drinking from it or not, that is really an interesting point.

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Divina and Helen - you have been very helpful - thank you
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Hi Barb and others,
Just to back up Divina's post:
Water does come out of the ground fizzy.
The most amazing thing is to swim in it - as you can in Stuttgart Bad Cannstatt, GErmany, and then go have a drink afterwards at the fountain.
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