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Old 31st May 2002, 07:28 AM
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I need some advise, concerning a nursing mother, that gave birth 2 months ago, with an epidural anaesthesia. Occipital strong headache that started at the time of the epidural injection and continues till now.
The occipital pain > coffee: and < rising from bed, < rising from stooping. < heat.
She is nursing.
I will appreciate any advise, especially taking the well being of her and her infant into consideration.
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Old 1st June 2002, 06:21 AM
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Thank you, dear Ricky! That is a very good way of looking at this problem. Because I am worried how the baby will take this Led., I will give the mother an infusion of rosemary. What do you think?
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chamomila has those modalities.
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I gave Ledum 30 to the last epidural caused headaches I came across and it worked a treat!! Since your patient is a NBWS of 2 months you may wish to go to the 200 potency. Ledum was given purely because an epidural is a puncture wound!
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Hi Shoshy,
You have completly lost me as to why you would want to give an infusion of rosemary. Get Mum to express a load of milk first and put in the fridge or freeze and then give the Ledum. Let the babay have a feed directly after as the Ledum would not have got through to the milk so fast and then let the baby have the expressed milk out of a bottle for a day or so. It's a thought!!
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Hi Ricky! As far as I understand Ledum Palustre is wild rosemary. People use it in the food for flavour. That is why I assumed that that kind of tea of rosemary might answer the problem, like Led., without abnormal influence on the baby. Is this OK?
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Old 3rd June 2002, 02:36 PM
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dear Ricky and Anna Bryant.
I wanted to update and thank you for your help. The lady took a tea made of the young twigs of rosemary, when she suffered from that terrible headache, and got some relief immediately. Now she has no hadache at all. She is thankful to you too.
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Well you have certainly taught me something!! I have just found the following in Clarke's MM

REMEDY NAME:Ledum
Ledum palustre.
Wild Rosemary.
Marsh Cistus.
Marsh Tea.
Labrador Tea.
N O. Ericaceae.
Tincture of dried small twigs and leaves collected after flowering begins.
Tincture of whole fresh plant.

So is this the same plant as the rosemary bush in my garden that I use for flavouring lamb or that I would give as a tea to a pregnant woman to make the birth easier??
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Good morning Ricky.
Clarke was my source of information. The twigs I used were from a bush that is probably the same as yours. I assumed that it is the same. yesterday evening I met the lady and the headache was back. I keep on updating you how the second dose worked.
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Old 5th June 2002, 04:42 AM
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Good morning Ricky.
Thank you for your information. The nearest town is Quiryath-Shemona, but I order my remedies from Hadar Pharmacy in Haifa, usually, and get them within 1 day. Will it be necessary to pump the milk, the way you put it? She is not prepared to do so. Also, the Led keeps acting for 30 days.
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