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Old 19th May 2002, 12:54 AM
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Hi Marisa,

I've successfully treated a number of clients with panic attacks and even more with depression. You might be interested in a book called 'Prozac Free' by Judyth Reichenberg-Ullman and Robert Ullman.
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Old 19th May 2002, 11:45 AM
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Hi,
I'm new to this forum, and new to homeopathy. I am seeing an MD who is also a homeopath. I was wondering if anyone here has any experience with treating/being treated homeopathically for Panic Disorder and Depression? If so, did you have success with this route?

I am trying the homeopathic route for treatment, as I don't like the idea of starting on psych meds if I can avoid it with a more holistic approach. I haven't ruled out taking meds, but wanted to try the homeopathic approach first. Any input would be welcome!

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Old 19th May 2002, 05:42 PM
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Hi Shirley,
Thanks for your reply. I just ordered that book yesterday! I look forward to reading it. It's encouraging to know that there are other options available to me, and I feel quite fortunate to have found a Doctor skilled in treating emotional disorders, and also a homeopathic practioner.

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I think you are smart to try the homeopathic approach. My own experience with homeopathy is limited, but strongly suggests that it has the capability to actually remove the exciting causes of depression and anxiety, or strengthen the constitution of the individual, making him better able to manage stress. Allopathic medications—psychoactive drugs—on the other hand, may do a very nice job of relieving symptoms, and controlling them, often very quickly. In some cases, a relatively brief trial on the medications, say, 6 months or less, may be all that is needed. But very, very commonly, patients end up requiring the medication for long periods of time; this may not reflect an actual dependence, but it does reflect that the ‘illness’ has, in fact, only been controlled (suppressed), it has not been cured. Patients on psychoactive medication commonly spend years on the medication; they may then feel better, or want a break, and do without it for awhile, only to return to the use of medications after a longer or shorter interval.

I expect that the record of homeopathy with regard to relapse is better than the record of allopathic medicine, probably by a great deal, at least as regards psychological conditions. I would be interested in more detail on this from the homeopaths on the BB.

My other concern is with underlying factors that predispose to ‘illness,’ and to relapse. These include diet and environmental “toxins,” including pesticides, chemicals (including the dyes in our clothing, formaldehyde in foam pillows, etc., etc.), and even EMFs (electro-magnetic fields). The “Fit for Life” books by the Diamonds and “Is This Your Child? A Guide to Hidden Allergies in Children and Adults,” by Doris Rapp, are good references here.

I am curious what remedy/remedies your homeopath is prescribing?
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Dear BWV,

I would be interested to know that too but without the knowledge of her complaints and her nature, the remedy name will not advise us of anything.

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Old 25th May 2002, 05:38 PM
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bmv,
I did some research on the psychiatric meds and was disturbed by the thought of being on them indefinetly. I am also working with a therapist who supports the homeopathic approach. Since I am presently unmedicated (though struggling), I figured the homeopathic route would be worth my time.

I just finished my second interview with the Doctor I am seeing. Because he is some distance from my home, he will be mailing the remedy, along with dosing instructions. I have a follow-up appointment in 4 weeks at his office.

I will let you know what remedy/potency he prescribes for me when I receive it.

I do have a question. I have quit coffee and am only drinking tea 1-2 cups a day. How long until these caffeine headaches go away?

Also-I switched to Tom's of Maine all natural toothpaste as he told me not to use mint toothpaste.
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Old 26th May 2002, 02:16 AM
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Dear Snoopy,

Yeh, I knew that, but you know, I had to ask anyway. In my field, when someone interprets someone's behavior without the benefit of a clinical interview, we call it 'wild analysis.' I plead guilty to doing the same vis a vis homeopathy, but as a neophyte I'm considering this a kind of data gathering exercise--and I put the pieces in and later on I'll see how they come out.

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Hi Marisa,

Thanks for your response. I look forward to hearing about the remedy your guy prescribes.

I'm glad to hear about Tom's of Maine toothpaste -- I also suggest looking into "alternative" soaps, cleaning solutions, etc. etc. They are really very pleasant, mild alternatives to the standard stuff.

As far as the caffeine headaches are concerned, I'd guess that, like most things, that would vary with the individual, but I really don't have much experience with that -- maybe Snoopy or one of the others can give you some better insight on it.

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Caffeine headaches usually don't last more than 3-4 days, and often go away faster if vit.C and B vit. are included in the detox.
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BWV11,

Actually, if the remedy chosen for this case by the practitioner taking it is correct you can know everything about the case by reading MM... Denise
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