Hi all,

I have a friend who has listened to me talk on about homeopathy and how it's worked for me. I told her about this site, and how there are many doctors who can give suggestions. She is in her first month of pregnancy, and this last week she has been very ill.
She just received a prescription for Diclectin from her physician today, and it is to be taken before bed, 2 pills. They tell her that it is safe for the baby. I know someone else who had the same meds, and had a healthy baby.

If anyone gets a clear picture from these symptoms, please help. I will print this out for her so she can see for herself. Question, how safe is homeopathy during the first trimester? I used it in the third.

She and husband have tried for over 10 years to get pregnant.

All day nauseated, has vomited, and dry heave, no particular trigger

no appetite for anything, ice cold water is good, and watered down apple juice

worse for warm, stuffy room. normally a cold person who likes the warmth

can't stand sweets, like popsicles she tried

enjoying fruits and vegies mostly, warm soup no good

no relief from lying or sitting

random hot flahes and chills, shivers with chills

nervous, sore and tight stomach from vomiting

tried to drink milk, but diarhea from it

38 years of age, concerned about the health of the baby, because of her age, that if the son or daughter has any disabilities that she won't be able to care for in the long term, like 20 years or more from now. We worked together for some years supporting adults with mental disabilities, and that is where this idea of long term support for the child if
needed comes in. We've seen people miss out on allot as they have aging parents. I don't know how relevant this info is, but thought I would include it. She's worried and wants to have all tests available to ensure healthy normal child, she won't keep it if there's huge health problems.

Anyway, after all that, I hope that someone can help. I started to look in my books, but
thought I would try here first.

One more thing, Will any remedy antidote the meds, or will the meds cause the remedy to be less effective?

I appreciate any help I can give my friend in need.

Shauna

I would think first of Phosphorus because of being better for and desiring ice cold water, and if that didn't work, next I would try Arsenicum because of the mental picture--worrying about the baby's future, worry that something bad will happen, etc.

Spearmint tea is wonderful for nausea. I hear ginger tea is another good one.

I would give a 30C of the remedy in water, as it tends to be longer-lasting that way and more effective. Just drop a few pellets in a disposable cup, stir with something plastic, and drink and throw the cup away.
Repeat only when needed.

No need to fear homeopathy--it promotes natural healing, it's not a substance that may be toxic or have side effects.

Snoopy

Shauna,
Taking remedies and making changes based on single symptoms is not without consequence in homeopathy... it is misapplied homeopathy, your friend does not have a simple situation and if she is interested in using homeopathy she should see a CLASSICAL homeopath, otherwise it would likely be much safer to use teas and such to palliate if she desires to stay away from conventional meds... Denise

Denise makes a good point, that sometimes you can successfully take a remedy to stop a physical problem but then you find yourself worse on a deeper level, which means you've actually taken the wrong remedy. This, in a nutshell, is how modern medicine works, and they're very proud of it, thank you very much! Symptom removal, at any cost!

But here has been my experience with acute homeopathy: the wrong remedy simply doesn't work. The right remedy is the one that works, and usually the first sign is a welcome feeling of calm on the mental/emotional plane.

Our best homeopaths have written numerous books on acute prescribing for the general public, meaning that they fully expect you to take care of such things as nausea during pregnancy. I believe Miranda Castro has such a book out that many on this board have recommeded for pregnant women. (Visit www.minimum.com)

If a person is throwing up constantly, you have to treat it. If the herb teas work, that's great.
But don't be afraid of homeopathy.

Snoopy

[ 07 May 2002, 18:22: Message edited by: Snoopy ]

Maybe the homeopaths on this board have to be more cautious than those of us who are unschooled. I like that and I respect it. However, my niece experienced INSTANT relief from morning sickness with Symphoricarpus 30c. She is still singing the praises of the homeopath (from this BBoard) who suggested it. She had no further problems and is now in her 30th week of pregnancy. Good luck to your friend.

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Kathy

Ricky,

If the symptoms match those of Symphoricarpus and the remedy is given and the symptoms abate; how is that palliative and not curative?

By that reasoning, if a patients symptoms match, say, Stramonium, and the remedy is given and the symptoms abate, then it is palliative. Yet, homoeopaths say it is curative.

Which is it?

Surely, you can not pick and choose remedies and say they only act palliatively?

Surely, it would be palliatively only if the symptoms abated and "new" (i.e. never before experienced Sx) symptoms appeared?

If the symptoms match and all the symptoms are covered by the remedy, then it is curative, right?

[ 10 May 2002, 04:38: Message edited by: Simone ]

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Regards,<br /><b>Simone H</b><br /><br /><i>Aude Sapere</i><br /><br />"Never be a passive listener or learner" ~ Christian Gottfried Hahnemann

Simone,

I have to say, I agree wholeheartedly with Kathy.
Our pharmacies sell acute prescribing 30C kits because they fully intend for you to treat nausea and vomiting and other unbearable conditions, and as Kathy stated, when you get the right remedy, you get your life back!

Kathy's niece had tried numerous remedies before symph. was tried. She tried Ipecac, Sepia, and heaven knows what else. Nothing helped. But she didn't give up, and she didn't say, "Oh, I must be screwing up my case by taking so many remedies!" When the right remedy was given, it worked. This has always been my experience.

I know that what Denise says it true. A 6X can aggravate. A high potency can aggravate. Taking the remedy repeatedly when not needed can aggravate. Too many succussions and too many pellets can aggravate. I try to give out warnings to people: Don't repeat if the remedy is working! If there's an aggravation, stop taking the remedy! If you've prescribed low, or even a 30C, the aggravation will wear off soon.

There's a bumper sticker:
Homeopathy-the safer medicine

It's not totally safe, but it is the safer medicine. No need to be afraid, you have more to gain in trying than lose.

Snoopy

Snoopy

Your reply appears to have nothing to do with my question to Ricky about automatically assuming a remedy is palliative. What is your point?

My response to Ricky was that one shouldn't ignore Symphoricarpus because someone once said it was palliative.

If it works and the symptoms match, and no other "new" symptoms appear, then it is the correct remedy, no? And, if no "new" symptoms have appeared then its not damaging (because if you are not repeating it then you are not setting off down the route to a proving).

Although some might say, that if "new" symptoms do appear, they may be indicative of the "right" remedy.

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Regards,<br /><b>Simone H</b><br /><br /><i>Aude Sapere</i><br /><br />"Never be a passive listener or learner" ~ Christian Gottfried Hahnemann

I'm sorry I missed the point (and don't think it won't happen again!).

You can have the right remedy, and still have proving symptoms. They're called accessory symptoms. It just means the potency was too high.
But the accessory symptoms will fade away with time.

The only thing to worry about is whether the remedy is following Hering's law. The direction of cure should be moving from the inside out, etc.
So if you take a remedy and the direction seems to be going opposite to Hering's law, then you start thinking you've caused suppression with the wrong remedy.

Palliation? They say that's when you remove a local symptom without changing the person in general. There's nothing wrong with that; especially when you're vomiting, having an asthma attack, or any of the other acute states we've been talking about. That's called a blessing.

Snoopy

Kathy,
When the similimum is found,the positive response IS instant....it is when an incorrect remedy that is close enough to impact, or a correct remedy that is given in too high a dilution or repeated too often that you can get into trouble....a 6X can be too high a dilution if the vital force is weak... LM's can aggravate...succussing can create aggravation, it always does on me...the more one prescribes, the more opportunity one has to observe these things...unless the prescription is made over the internet, in which case one never knows what has happened unless it is reported, and often, even when you have the advantage of face to face contact, people don't connect changes or symptoms with the remedy.... Denise