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Old 14th April 2002, 01:48 AM
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Hello, I am a 33 year old male, in above average health. For the last 3 months I have experienced severe Cluster/Migrane headaches everyday at the same time of day(5am EST now after time change). I have never experienced migrane headaches for more than 2 or maybe 3 days max in the past.

I have had neck and back xrays done and am seeing a chiropractor for a subluxation in C1 and a curve in my spine. I was in a car accident in 1996 and never knew I had these problems until Feb 2002. My chiropractor believes this is the problem/cause of my headaches.

I recently saw a Nutritionist who also confirmed that the Tonsil/C1 area(I guess the Thyroid area?) is where I have the weakness, and it appears to be the cause of the headaches.

This is all after dealing with a Neurologist for weeks, and trying a dozen different medications, with no success.

Just yesterday, my chiropractor gave me Sulphur and told me to try one 'pellet' per day. I asked what signs I should see. She told me in about 4 or 5 days you should see changes in your body, but I don't want to tell you about them b/c I don't want to lead you on. So I said OK, kind of confused.

Last night, I take the first pellete of Sulphur. At 5am, headache strikes like normal...really feeling it throughout the head and face area. At about 7am I begin to experience SEVERE Toothaches in my whole mouth. I still have that pain. I knew I didn't have a particular tooth problem, because it wasn't just one tooth. I had increased pressure on the eyes...more than usual with the headaches. I also experienced shortness of breath, and a heart palpitation feeling later in the morning.

Are these typical side effects of Sulphur? Should I be worried by any of these reactions? The headaches are bad enough, I don't need toothaches on top of them. Should I continue to take this stuff?

If anyone can give me some thought, or ideas I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you very much in advance.
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Old 14th April 2002, 05:32 AM
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Dear Joe,

You don't say what strength the dose was. If it was me I'd insist on knowing this before taking a pellet every day on blind faith.

I suggest you ring your chiropracter/homoeopath and tell her the symptoms you experienced and ask her to explain to you what the reactions mean.

If you're still unclear get back to us with further information.
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Old 14th April 2002, 05:37 AM
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This tube I have has these little pellets in it. The tube says SULPHUR 200CK if that means anything. The indicated dosage on the tube says to take 3-5 pellets at onset of symptoms. So I didn't think one would have much effect. Says to repeat three times a day. My chiropractor only said to take one pellet a day.?.?.?

Does that help at all? I'm really wondering if I should continue taking this stuff.
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Old 14th April 2002, 06:51 AM
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Hi Joe,

Your chiropracter/homoeopath predicted you would see changes in 4 or 5 days.
Well, you've already seen some changes in 1 day, after 1 dose.
Normally, the proceedure is to take one dose, then wait and watch, to see the reaction.

It is your homoeopath's job to discern whether that reaction is moving curatively or not. She can't tell this if you continue to overdose. Once your Vital Force has been stimulated into reaction that is enough. Stop taking the remedy and ask your homeopath for further advice.

The labelling on the bottle is very unclear because in reality each person has a different susceptibility factor. 200C potency is known as the great "aggravator". Why on earth anybody would tell someone to take one every day for 5 days is irresponsible and shows an ineptitude for prescribing. "Take 3 doses at the onset of symptoms" is equally stupid advice.
Don't take any more doses until the aggravations settle.
Your homoeopath may decide it was a good remedy choice, but just too strong a dose. If the remedy has acted curatively you should experience some lessening of migraine symptoms/intensity, and an overall sense of well-being.
When it comes time to repeat the dose I would advise 30C or lower potency. There has been no consideration of your individual sensitivity levels taken into account.

Just to be clear, you had a chiropractic manipulation and a homeopathic remedy within the same time frame? Which did what?
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Old 14th April 2002, 07:35 AM
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Thank you for the replies Chris. I appreciate the help.

I've been getting adjustments from the chiropractor for about 2 months now. She has just started trying the homeopatic remedies with the Sulphur. I don't think I could handle another day of those toothaches along with the headaches. I am going to stop taking the remedy, and I will contact her first thing Monday morning.
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Old 14th April 2002, 05:19 PM
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Hi Joe,

Your chiropractor probably knows more about chiropractics than homeopathy, and she obviously is dedicated to her patient's well being. Homeopathy is best prescribed by one who practices it exclusively. At the risk of sounding snobbish or judgemental please understand that it is an artful science, and it is different enough in application that one must live, breath, and practice it to become effective. I want to say this so that you will not be afraid of what homeopathy does (one more bad toothache on top of your migraine might send you running from it!). Of the brief picture you painted of your condition there is no doubt in my mind that an experienced homeopath could provide the relief you are seeking. But it is still Sunday, and the previous advice on this post was absolutely correct in suggesting that one dose, wait and see is proper. Don't take any more. A 200 is a potent dose and commonly would be given once with several weeks to let the case unfold before adding or changing. But because you are suffering so it would be good for you to find a homeopath as soon as possible.

Good luck and do take care.
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Hi Joe,

Your chiropractor probably knows more about chiropractics than homeopathy, and she obviously is dedicated to her patient's well being. Homeopathy is best prescribed by one who practices it exclusively. At the risk of sounding snobbish or judgemental please understand that it is an artful science, and it is different enough in application that one must live, breath, and practice it to become effective. I want to say this so that you will not be afraid of what homeopathy does (one more bad toothache on top of your migraine might send you running from it!). Of the brief picture you painted of your condition there is no doubt in my mind that an experienced homeopath could provide the relief you are seeking. But it is still Sunday, and the previous advice on this post was absolutely correct in suggesting that one dose, wait and see is proper. Don't take any more. A 200 is a potent dose and commonly would be given once with several weeks to let the case unfold before adding or changing. But because you are suffering so it would be good for you to find a homeopath as soon as possible.

Good luck and do take care.
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Hi JoeOtto,
I'm voicing a word of caution: It takes at least 5 years of specialised training to become a classical homeopath. Although the remedies are sold OTC, it takes much more to prescribe them accurately. You have seen the power that such a remedy can have. Unfortunately there are people who still believe that the remedies either work or don't and never cause any harm - that is not necessarily so. Is your chiropractor also a trained homeopath ? If not, you'd do well in looking for a classical homeopath and have the chiropractor do her thing only. If she isn't trained to be a homeopath she has no business prescribing anything at all !
Not very ethical in my opinion. If she is a trained homeopath, I definately question her prescribing and dosage methods.
In the hands of a good homeopath, your headaches have a chance to disappear for good.
Hope you feel better soon.
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Old 14th April 2002, 07:00 PM
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Dear Joe,

This bulletin board should be renamed Horror Story Hotline, because we hear these cries for help a lot, and they all relate to high-potency prescribing, often in repeated daily or weekly doses. It's unfortunate that because homeopathy "looks" so easy, and the remedies are so easy to obtain, and people feel sooooooo professional when they prescribe 200C and above, the potential for harming someone is quite considerable.

People think they're so much better off going to an MD or DC for homeopathy when, in fact, a lay homeopath may know a lot more and may actually be able to help you. For example, In our repertory
(book of symptoms with matching remedies), there's a rubric "Headache at 5 AM". There's only 4 remedies in that rubric; Kali Iodatum scores very high. This is definitely a rubric we'd be looking at in your case. Then there's another rubric, "Generals, periodicity, complaints return at same hour." Then, if we could just find one more very individualizing rubric for you, we'd probably have your remedy.

So, that's how it's done.

Why don't you log onto Dr. Leela's web site--she takes patients over the web, I'm sure you've seen her posts here. Check her out.

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Old 14th April 2002, 09:03 PM
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I was just gonna post what Snoopy did. There are only 4 remedies under headaches at 5am (this doesn't guaruntee that one of those is yours but it is a great modality). I wouldn't follow the advise of your chiro - rather, see someone in person who is a classicaly trained homeopath, get under the care of Dr Leela online or even try posting your full case here.

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