My 17 year old daughter took herself to the doctor on Tuesday for her college physical. While there whe was pressured into getting a tetaus boosterand subsequently, she has experienced malaise, full body muscle aches, an increase in an existing sore, inlamed throat. These SX reached a peak this (Thursday) morning and she slept deeply or several hours. Upon awakening, she took one adult asprin and since then she has felt better. At this time, (late Thursday evening) she is feeling much better.

We spoke with someone this afternoon who was quite forceful in her opinion of the effects of possible effects of this vaccine, emphasising the potential emotional and mental disorders that are likely results. I was quite upset after speaking with her. I have been unable to find any inormation online that mirrors what was described to me. Can anyone on this board help? Or point me to a book that will do more than just tell me the horror stories of vaccination-related issues.
I'm convinced that they are a bad idea in general, but browbeating my daughter and i, or self flagellation will not do any good at this point. I can't turn back time and we have discussed (once again) the reasons why I think vaccines are a bad idea. I've read the pertinent pages in Vithoulkis (which were somewhat reassuring-did I read it wrong?)

We are relatively new to homeopathy in specific and non-allopathic medicine in general (come from a long line of MD's and nurses) now I am quite scared (as anyone reading this can probably tell).

Just dithering now-thanks in advance for any information.

Try here:

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/tetanus.htm
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/tetanus3.html
http://www.chem.gla.ac.uk/~paule/tet...e.current.html
http://chetday.com/novacarticles.html (which lists articles written by the medical profession on the dangers of this vaccine

Personally, I did a www.google.com search for "tetanus vaccine dangers"

This brought up thousands of pages (quite a few from medical doctors) on the tetanus vaccine dangers.

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Thank you for posting those links. My three google searches turned up lots of other pages but those were particularly useful.

It is also worthwhile noting that there are many remedies in homoeopathy that relate to the symptoms of tetanus and tetanus shots.

What I found particularly interesting about those links above is that one of them stated that the incidence of tetanus in the USA is down to 309 a year!! That's with less than 40% vaccination rates.

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Claire

I understand your concern. Please keep in mind that if the effects of the vaccine continue they can be treated with homeopathic remedies. Do you and your family have a homeopath? If so it may be a good idea to mention this to him/her.

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Barb-
Thank you for your comment.

The 'someone' i mentioned calling was our homeopath. Upon reflection, it was the least effective conversaton I have ever had with a healthcare professional. For those of you in practice, it is not helpful to lecture a concerned patient/parent of patient and then tell her to call back on Monday. I felt punished and as you know, very frightened. This lack of or mis-communication has happened before and I am considering a change of practioners. I have written her a letter and will wait until I hear from her to make my decision.

Hi Claire,
If your homeopath was quite adamant in her response about vaccine, I can understand why.

Vaccines are dangerous.
Homeopathy is effective. Allopathy is suppressive (not curative).

If you don't fully understand the paradigm from which your homeopath was speaking, in reference to the damage that vaccines can do; and you say you come from a family of nurses and doctors; then take the time to read the links Simone posted and try to educate yourself a bit on what Homeopathy is and how it works.

You can go to www.demystify.com and read a small booklet which you can download free, by Dr Jacob Mirman (he was an MD ---converted to Homeopathy). This is a very good starter for those new to homeopathy .

There are many books you can source to gain a better understanding. If you would like other refernences - post back and I'm sure others will make recommendations for you.

As for personality, and the way you felt after speaking with your Homeopath. It's obviously hard to judge any of it, since none of us know you, her, or heard the conversation unfold.

Sometimes people feel uncomfortable when hearing something that is completely new to them and especially when it strikes against everything they understand (it forces one to re-think their 'world'). Making a shift in our thinking (comfort zone) is never done with ease . If on the other hand, she was uncaring, and off-hand, then perhaps you oughta consider communicating your concerns with her. I hafta say, it's always better to bridge gaps than to run the other way having thrown a grenade behind you.

Just ring her back...tell her what you told us...and if you are uncomfortable doing that - figure out what made you feel that way. Were you being defensive (because you somehow feel responsible)? Are you just uncomfortable with confronting truth and would rather cut and run? Or, was she indeed being hard and unfair? Then decide what your best and most honest course of action should be (keeping in mind, that your daughter's best iterest should be the most important element in all this). Then just have the courage to do it.

Well, maybe I'm totally off course...but this is what came to mind when I read your post tonight. I wish you the best. And, if you have anymore questions - please ask...I'm sure others will do their best to help out.

Life; it's never straightforward - is it? Hang in there.

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Hi. LisaAnnan-
Thank you for the long and thoughtful reply. I have, actually, been under the treatment of this particular homeopath for 2 years or so. And I have read all of Vithoulkas, one book by Ullman and a particularly interesting book, Vibrational Medicine in the 21st Century which is an excellent analysis of all types of energy medicine. I understand the principles behind homeopathy fairly well but still have a problem deprogramming myself from the Big Medicine model.

A little background on our case: my daughter spent much of her early teens on a variety of psych meds trying to deal with some severe emotional problems. They never made any lasting changes for her, we grew tired of the trial and error methodology and the (sometimes horrendous) side-effects. The classical, constitutional homeopathy has been almost miraculous in its effect. And I can say the same for myself-long time, intractable depression and general malaise are on the decline. I firmly believe that homeopathy is a highly effective method of maintaining and promoting health and healing.

Some of my reaction is indeed the result of feeling responsible. I am angry with my daughter for letting them go ahead, when she knows that the shot was unnecessary and detrimental. She is in the midst of a year off and getting ready to travel and go off to college. She is very responsible and has been kicking herself for giving in to the pressure from the doctor she sees for physical forms. What just ticked me off about the Homeopath's response was that she must have used the word 'psychosis' bout 4 times in the course of a 5 minute or so conversation. Like it was a forgone conclusion that the result of this would even worse emotional problems, permanent and irreversible (and she did say that they might be irreversible). I have read all the websites posted earlier and re-read the pertinent pages in my books and while there is no doubt a wide variety of complications and issues that could develop from this mistake on our parts there was nothing that seemed to make major mental illness a certainty.

And in the final instance, what was there to be gained at that time by really scaring me? How can I change what has already happened? I am guessing she was angry and frustrated with me and my daughter and I can see that. But it.was.a.mistake. (As I write this, though, I think 'Well, maybe she did it intentionally on some level. A 'small' rebellion; a 'you're not in charge of me any more; a rude gesture toward the homeopath who forgot that she had already graduated from high school and laughed at her problems breaking up with her boyfriend) I am so glad that I answered the phone and not my daughter .

On the positive note, we are supporting her immune system with colloidal silver, grapefruit seed extract and Echinacea; good food and plenty of rest. I suppose that only time will tell what the repercussions of this will be. The initial reaction wasmoderate (possibly, according to Vithoulkis,\"the defense mechanisim is quite strong and may be able to successfully counteract the morbific influence of the vaccine." The Science of Homeopathy,p.115) the librarian in me took over for a moment. Expecting the worst, though, seems counterproductive.

I will have a discussion with our practitioner and have already sent her a letter as I am much more articulate on the page than in person. I am lucky enough to live in an area with many homeopaths.

Thanks again for your post.
Claire

Claire,

Your homeopath may have beed refering to SYCOSIS, which is a 'miasm' rather than PSYCHCOSIS which understandably might distress you because of your daughters history.... Denise

Denise-
Thank you- that is an interesting idea. Sycosis is the miasim associated with gonorrhea, yes? It certainly would have been easy for me to make that mistake just listening. I'm not too sure about the relationship with the tetanus vaccine, though. I'll ask her about that on Monday.

Claire