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Old 5th April 2002, 03:32 AM
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Hi there,
I recently spent 9 months on another board trying to get better, unfortunately all that happened was, I put on 28 lb from being given the wrong pills that caused fluid retention (Nat mur) but have since lost 14 lb by using the Eat right for your type diet written by Dr Peter J D’Adamo.

Also, the day after I was told to take Ac Phos 200C, 2 tablets, I awoke with terrible pain in both legs, from just above my knees to my feet. I still have that pain today. I don’t know if it was the tablets, or just a coincidence. The most annoying thing about this pain is bending my knees, and walking short distances really hurts.

For over 5 months I was taking 2 T Udos oil mixed with 2 T cottage cheese, 2 Tfreshly ground flax seeds and 1 T flax seed oil. Have stopped taking the Udos oil because it had not made any difference, and is very expensive, but the remaining 3 ingredients I still have for lunch.

I have also been taking supplements like shark cartilage, some B Vitamins, magnesium, etc, Chondroitin/glucosamine, glucosamine sulfate, none of which have made any difference.

In order are the tabs I was told to take during that 9 month period:

Phosphorus.....30C
ditto..........LM1 in vodka
Nat mur........30C
ditto.........200C
ditto...........LM
Calc phos.......6X
Nux vomica.....30C
Nat mur.........6X
Rhus tox.......30C
ditto.........LM01
ditto.........LM01 in vodka
Camphora.......30C
Ac phos.......200C
ditto.........200C in vodka
Nat mur........30C 4 tabs daily for 3 days.
ditto.........200C
Sulphur.......200C
ditto...........1M
Camphora.......30C
Kali carb.....200C
Nux vomica.....30C
Kali carb.......1M

All this stems from a silly little fall I had just over 5 yrs ago.
I thought I was ok, but, that night the pain set in.
So called experts said I had damaged all my muscles.

The next 3 yrs I spent going to Chiropractors, Physios, Osteopaths and most others, you name it I have probably had it.

To date, the only pills that have helped me are Aropax, (similar to Prozac) which really amazed the Specialist I now go to.
Anti-inflammatory and painkillers never ever really worked.
For a while the specialist was injecting steroids into the worst areas, mainly the shoulders, lower back and knees, most times they didn't work, or, pain relief was short lived.
I now take no allo meds at all

Mornings are the worst, can only walk a few feet without support, some days that feeling never goes, but when it does, I can potter around doing odd jobs, but for the last few months, since the pain in my legs started, I haven't been able to do any jobs, apart from wash dishes, dust, tidy up etc, menial jobs, if I do try to do something harder, I suffer for at least 2 days.

My Specialist calls it Chronic pain syndrome and likens it to Fibromyalgia. I call it Hell.
I can't play with my grandchildren any more; I can't even lift the baby up.
I am 59 yrs old and prior to this happening, was a very energetic work-a-holic.
My diet is very good, no fat, reasonable intake of fruit, lots of organic veges I grow myself,
don't smoke and don’t drink. I don’t drink tea or coffee, only a drink I make myself called kefir, and juices, don’t use sugar or salt.
I also have arthritis in my lower back and degeneration of the lower spine, which I have had for 40 yrs, also have arthritis in my joints and fingers, but all that doesn't trouble me as much as the aching muscles do.

Blood tests I had taken a few weeks ago to see if there was anything wrong that would account for this pain in my legs, came up with these results.

CRP....C-Reactive protein is very raised, 15 is normal, mine is 33. This test is only just new here in NZ.
ESR....Erythrocyte Sedimentation Rate, also new here, though not as new as the above.
Normal is 0-20 mine is 67.
I looked this test up on the internet.

>>>>>the usefulness of this test has decreased as new methods of evaluating disease have been developed.<<<<<

Yet it is only new here, still, we are said to be 20 yrs behind.
I opted for no allo treatment, as the only option I had was more steroids.

Well, I don’t think I have left anything out, I just hope and pray that someone is able to help me.
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Old 5th April 2002, 04:20 AM
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Dear Dorothy,

It's equally distressing for sincere homoeopaths to see a case so badly mismanaged as yours. 22 remedies/doses in 9 months demonstrates that the practitioner(s) never really had a grasp of your case. It is possible you have also been made oversensitive to remedies in this process and it will take some professional and skilful prescribing to afford you permanent relief.

There are homoeopaths on this site who do give a tinker's dam that you get well. So I would strongly urge to carefully consider your options. Firstly, please
look for a professional homoeopath in New Zealand, there are many, who can treat you in person. Do a Yahoo search on the New Zealand Council of Homoeopaths. Internet prescribing as you've already found out can be a poor alternative despite the best of intentions. If you could contact a professional homoeopathic association describe your situation and ask them to recommend someone who is well-experienced in this area. Even if it means some travelling for the initial interview, follow-ups can often be done for a time by telephone. If there are financial difficulties most homoeopaths I'm sure will be supportive to your situation.
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Old 5th April 2002, 04:38 AM
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Hi Dorothy

This is the link to the NZCH:

http://www.homeopathy.co.nz/register.htm

Personally, I would send a private message to Julian Winston (you can get his link from the front of these discussion forums, as he is the moderator for the Auckland college forum) and ask him for a PERSONAL recommendation. I'm sure that he won't steer you wrong. Or, go to the NZCH web site and email him.

I have to agree with Chris there appears to be no rhyme or reason for the prescribing you have received.
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Hi Dorothy....eating 'no fat' is not healthy.

It is a fad of the last 20 or 30 years with NO PROOF that it is healthy. Just eat a BALANCE of healthy (real) foods.....no margarine...use REAL butter...Olive Oil is good (don't fry with it - it ruins the nutritive content!)...stay away from CANOLA (POISON!!!!!!!!!!), Sunflower (for frying is good).

It would be well worth reading Protein Power by the Eades (husband-wife - both docs who've researched all this thoroughly)...they talk about eating ADEQUATE amounts of foods (i.e. protein, fats, and lower the carbohydrates - especially 'refined' carbs!!! which are poison to us).

And, find a good homeopath locally..Julian is good to ask....
but please find one who gives one dose and waits (or changes potencies between dosing)...and one who only gives one remedy at a time (not a mixture or combination of)...

If you have any questions...post here...its a good place to ask .

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PS (the REASON I posted...duh!)

If you are drinking or eating ANYTHING with aspartame (nutrasweet, canderel, etc!!) please STOP!

It gives off Fibromyalgia symptoms in those who are susceptible....

I don't have time at the moment to look up links for you to look at...but do a search (google is good) on Aspartame and ill effects of..and see what comes up. Perhaps JVolkman will aid in putting up some links (??)...she seems to know where all this kinda stuff is!

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&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Firstly, please look for a professional homoeopath in New Zealand. If there are financial difficulties most homoeopaths I'm sure will be supportive to your situation.

Dear Chris,
Thank you for your reply.
I have 4 local homeopaths in my area.
Just over a year ago I phoned 2 of them up to see what the charges were, at that time it was $60 NZ (for both) one would want to see me weekly, the other twice weekly. I asked both if it was cheaper for a beneficiary, was told no by both of them. As I am only on an invalids benefit, receiving just under $200 per week, I am afraid I just couldn’t afford that. I did leave messages for the third h/path, but she never answered my calls, so I never bothered with the 4th.

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;If you could contact a professional homoeopathic association describe your situation and ask them to recommend someone

I will do that on Monday, maybe with a bit of luck I will find that there is a new one here.
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Old 5th April 2002, 07:24 PM
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Dear Simone,

Thank you for your reply.

I will also get in touch with Julian Winston, maybe he can help me. Though if he can only put me onto a h/path that wants to charge as I explained to Chris above, then I am afraid that will be out.

Still, you never know, maybe my luck is about to change, sure hope so.
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Old 5th April 2002, 07:30 PM
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Hi Dorothy,

I'm not sure why any homeopath would need to see a patient two times a week. I'm quite convinced the homeopaths you called are not classical homeopaths.

Don't worry, however: if you give Julian a call, you will be referred only to the classical ones. I happen to think your luck has changed already.

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Old 5th April 2002, 07:40 PM
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Dear Lisa,
Thank you also for your reply.

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;eating 'no fat' is not healthy.

I suppose I should have phrased that better, what I meant was, no bad fats.
I don’t buy supermarket meat, only home killed that has all the fat cut out.

.....no margarine...use REAL butter...Olive Oil is good (don't fry with it - it ruins the nutritive content!)...stay away from CANOLA (POISON!!!!!!!!!!)

I have very good intuition and margarine is something I have never eaten.
I belong to a group called Gettingwell, and there is one lady who often sends in reports on different foods etc and according to one such article olive oil is no good either. According to 1 expert, the only good oils are coconut oil, either from the Philippines or Australia and canola, that is made in Australia as well.
I have asked in the h/f shops where their canola comes from, but it has nothing on the tin.
Unfortunately, on the diet I am on I am not allowed coconut, so I have to make do with the o/oil.

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;It would be well worth reading Protein Power by the Eades

I have to go into town this morning, so I will check that out. Thank you.

&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;If you are drinking or eating ANYTHING with aspartame (nutrasweet, canderel, etc!!)

I know all about that poison from g/well.
About half way through that list of remedies I suddenly lost the urge for anything sweet, not that I had much before, but I would have the odd little chocolate bar about once every 1-2 months, but now, nothing, apart from what is in the good food I eat.
I don’t eat any processed foods, or anything in cans, boxes etc.
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Dear Dorothy

I am so sorry for you. I will be praying that you are able to find help very soon. I agree with the above posts that your very best bet would be to see someone in person especially with all the remedies you have taken.

Having said that, if that is not an option (I understand this because here in the US it is most difficult to find classical homeopaths and they typically charge $250.00) You can try postoing your case here and see if anyone can help.

But I have one big question - you said this all started after a fall 5 yrs ago? You have never been prescribed ARNICA?

If you do decide to post your case here also please post what , if any remedies gave any relief at all.

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