Hi All,
1.During Dec last year, i had been to India and returned to Singapore during Jan.
2.For first two weeks of Jan i was perfectly alright.
3.After that i started getting fever with stomach pain.
4.The fever was very high and visited near by doctor and he gave some antibiotics and some medicine for stomach pain, he took blood test and told that i am badly affected by some bacteriol infection.There was no sign of Maleria or Dengui.
5.After that the fever got reduced and only during evening i used to have fever for one hour.After taking Paracetomal and sleep for one hour the temperature will come to normal.It was there for a week and i had visited another doctor.Still the stomach pain was there.
6.He had forwarded me to a GastroIntenstine Specialist.He also took blood and sentfor culture test and typhiod fever.He had given Ciprobay for a week and the fever went off ( i didn't have fever during evening's also).When we collected the results he told that my Hemoglobin count is low and told that i am having some internal bleeding and wanted to Scope test. Since i was afraid of scope test i didn't go for it.
7.Still i have the stomach pain. Usually the pain will be in the upper quadrant of the stomach and some times will spread to back also and sometimes around naval.
8.My stools and urine are normail. I don't have Head ache, some time feel Tired.Other wise i am normal.
9.Please help me to come out of the stomach pain.
10.Typhoid results showed that there were symptoms of Typhoid and he told that the germs would not have completely cured, b'cos of that you would had fever.
11.Actually the pain will be in upper part of the stomach, both right and left quadrants.For 2 day's only the pain had spread to the back side.The pain is tollerable.I am having nice sleep during the night.In the morning, after finishing of my morning duties( going toilet and etc), the pain will start slowly.It will be there for some time and after lunch it will be there.Some times i used to relase lot of gas and that time i will feel slightly better.
Exactly to say pain will be at 2 inches from naval both right and left.
With Thanks
M.Balaji

is the pain for example:

burning,
cramping,
pressure,
trembling?

any nausea?

at what hour of the evening did the fever come, does it come back at all now?

apart from paracetamol, what relieves your pain - eg heat, cold, pressure, position?
what makes it worse?

have you noticed any changes in your mood and emotions since the onset of these symptoms - ask your friends and family if they noticed any change in you too.

and how about perspiration with the fever and in general -
location
odour, colour [anything unusual for you]
hot or cold

Hi Balaji,
The symptoms of pain you describe are of a duodenitis and a potential duodenal ulcer. But you need to rule out stones in the gall bladder as well as any problem with your pancreas. (I suppose you do not have fever now anymore after the antibiotics?)

I think an ultrasound scan of your abdomen will help you to rule out the latter 2 conditions.

Homeopathy can be of immense help to your condition, but a diagnosis would definitly help prognosis. Also there may be need ofr an alteration in your diet.
Anna has asked some questions - when you answer those and mybe some more, we could probably help you to find a remedy.

But finally if this one cannot help you, you need a complete case history taken and a remedy found.

There will alwasy be a corelation with your state of mind/stress and the origin of the symptoms that you have expressed above. So if you explain that to us, we would be able to help you out more.

Regards,
Doctorleela

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Hi Anna,
Thanks for the reply.
1.The pain is like Cramping and pressure.
2.During the first course of Fever i had temperature for the whole day. After 1 week, I used to be normal during the day time and the fever will be there when i go back home from work.So i used to sleep for an hour after taking paracetamol.The doctor who gave the first course of antibiotics had sent us to a GI and he had checked for the stones and liver condition,the results were normal.
3.Now i don't have the fever at all.As i specified after the doctor (GI) gave me Ciprobay antibiotics i am out of fever.
4.The perspiration is normal.
5.From Morning the pain has started moving towards the left leg and the stomach pain is very normal today.
muni_balaji@yahoo.com
Thanks and Regards

Referencing §104, I can't see how having an allopathic diagnosis would be needed in order of homeopathic treatment to be successful!

One may argue that one needs to know if a patient has stones in their gall bladder or not. But I argue that if the signs and symptoms are taken down carefully, as laid out in the Organon - then one will STILL find the remedy [most homeopathic to the case] and it will still work despite whether someone had a scan or not.

And of course, ref §153 to understand Characteristic Signs and Symptoms.

Following the method that Hn lays out, works.
I have come to realise it is this simple.

My thoughts on this are centered around a friend who has cancer... If she had left he lump alone - and had simply gotten treatment for her signs and symptoms, I'm firmly convinced she would have had a helluva better chance at recovery than at present (post chemo and surgery - with impending radiation and more chemo) - after going in for an initial diagnosis. Of course, having been given a poor prognosis (based on WHAT?!! certainly not scientific principles!) has played a HUGE roll in her case.

In my own case, I found a lump (lymph) recently - and I can tell you, there is NO WAY IN HELL I'm going into any allopath for 'a diagnosis'. Certainly not interested in hearing their 'prognosis'. No thanks. Once they start taking mammograms (pressing the hell outta of one's breast until it is painfully flat!!! not to mention disturbing the area itself - even injuring it!) and biopsies (which is dangerous if one has an inflammatory cyst/tumour, etc!!!!!!!) - then the 'fun' begins.

No thanks! I'll stick with my homeopath. I'll make changes to diet or whatever recommendations are made.....

Give me an experienced homeopath who knows what the hell they are doing, any day.

A diagnosis might help with an allopathically thought-out diagnosis to 'predict a prognosis (which is really a HUGE guess!), but it is certainly not needed to find a suitably hoemopathic medicine. Personally, I think it is a waste of money, time, effort and wears unnecessarily on the nerves.

Answer the questions Anna asks....those are sensibly homeopathic, imo. And, as Dr Leela said in her post (latter part) please have a full case properly taken (that is half the battle!) so you can get proper care.

Good luck and best wishes,
Lisa

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HI Lisa,
Its a question of perception.

I've seen a lot of cases mucked up here in India by homeopaths not knowing the pathology they are dealing with.

For example, if someone had fever due to cholecystitis and the gall bladder was full of stones, a homeopathic remedy would definitely help using symptom similarity. But what about the gall stones? What would you like to do about them in the long term?

If someone had pain radiating to the back, the Differential dignosis of that could be acute pancreatitis or a perforated duodenal ulcer each of which is as dangerous as having a heart attack. (The former could also be cause by an impacted gall stone in the pancreatic duct.) The patient could DIE in a few hours. Without knowing the warning signs and investigating on it in time, we have lost a life. Now who would like to take responsibility for that?

OF course there is always the case of patients who after an informend opinion decide to DECLINE any investigations. It should alwyas remain the patients choice. And then, furthur that is the patients responsibility. But no qualified doctor in his/her right mind would not advise the patient to check on the possible prognosis. So that they make an INFORMED DECISION always.

That's what comes with experience as a professional. Hope this helps.
warm regards,
doctorleela

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Hey Lisa,
Sorry I did not notice the last part of our post.

To answer specifically to it, as I don't think its the same as the case above, I would second your opinion and reaction. (I hope it will get resolved soon).

YEs if you are on good Homeoapthic treatment and your doctor has a grip on the situation, why should you be running about for a diagnosis? I would ask my patients to wait at least 3 months on my treatment but keep a watch on the lump to see whether its growing or changing in consistency etc and only then, if I find anything worth noting, I would ask her to do investigations.

That would be because not only I was confident of my similimum prescription but also because clinically I did not think it was something to get alarmed about and, also I would be watching it!

But the moment I felt it was anything suspicious, I would be obliged to advise her to check it out and decide on her OWN course of action. I would of course prefer that she continues with my treatment anyway!!

What I mean, is that I would love to have someone like you as my patient!!

Warmly,
doctorleela

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hello m.balaji, if you can consult a local homoeopath in person i advise that.

if you are not able to do so, please clarify, do you have any aggravation of the pain at a particular time of day or night *currently?

my intial thoughts are of Lyc because of the evening aggravation [not sure if current] plus the symptom of abdominal pain extending to the leg, as well as the general wind and pressure in the stomach with other GI symptoms.
also i think perhaps nux or sulf might be needed in due course since the condition was suppressed by antibiotics - that makes it potentially not straigtforward and is why i would prefer you to consult a homoeopath in person if possible, for your own benefit.

Hi Dr Leela,

Firstly (just to be clear) I understand there is a difference between a chronic problem and an acute [emergency]....we need to be able to understand the symptoms.

Definitely, people need to understand what pathology they are dealing with to be able to properly prescribe. But still, whether one takes the time to go confirm if there are gall stones (for example) or not - seems irrelevant to me. It's the signs and symptoms which will ultimately lead to the remedy. Maybe I'm missing something here...
but, the symptoms are going to be whatever they are no matter if one has a scan or not - an allopathic diagnosis or not - a prognosis (which is a guessing game, in my estimation) or not.....

Confirming whether someone has gall stones or not doesn't seem to me, to make a difference to treatment ---- if someone is having a strange symptom in the hypchondria area (i.e. after chill a sudden burning pain that shoots up through to the head whilst the eyes twitch or something similarly wierd) and you prescribe on that symptom-complex/totality/expression according to the method Hn lays out, the remedy will work regardless of whether a patient ran for an allopathic diagnosis or not.

What I'm saying is that if the symptoms (characteristic) are rooted out - then one would still prescribe on that regardless of 'diagnosis'. If someone is in dire pain - you wouldn't leave their side until they were out of danger. And the right remedy would help with the 'stuck stones (in the duct)' if there happened to be gall stones (stuck)....so what is the difference?

If you have pain in the abdomen- you have pain in the abdomen...so yes, knowing anatomy and physiology (pathology and disease to a degree, though this is less important to homeopathic thinking, in my estimation) is important! It aids us in knowing how to look up symptoms in the right place in the repertory. It aids us in knowing to look for rem's which have affinities for certain areas of the body (if this is a striking feature of the case). But, I still don't see how having an allopathic diagnosis to come up with a prognosis will help in the end.

Either one knows how to practise (come up with the most suitably homeopathic remedy) or not. And this is NOT dependent on diagnosis. It is dependent on knowing enough about anatomy and physiology but along with homeopathic principles, etc... Prognosis is only a guess - just like prediciting if a remedy is THE simillimum before the patient has taken it. Kinda echoes the 'empty speculation' line of thinking Hn talks about....

That is where I my thinking was....hope it makes sense...if not, I'll try later, to expand (and formulate it better) a bit more.

Best wishes,
Lisa

[ 05 April 2002, 12:23: Message edited by: LisaAnnan ]

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