Hi! I visited a naturopath today, who said she was very glad to hear that I hadn't
had my children vaccinated. She added that there are homeopathic vaccinations available
that she can administer. Are there advantages to these, and are they proven to be effective?

Also, I took along a copy of the program my son was on last summer (from a homeopath), and
she (the naturopath) thought it very strange that my 18 month old would have been prescribed
a program of all 200C remedies (for ear infection and liver problem). I have allot of bottles that
are sitting in my cupboard now, and I don't think I'll use them up before the expiry date!

The doctor explained how she would like to get to the root of the problem instead of prescribing
remedies to treat in a symptomatic way, which I know that is what homeopathy is. A homeopath
on the other hand, problably would have sent me home with another program to stick to.

There also seems to be different opinions about potencies and dosages. It is confusing me.!!!
AHHHH !
I want the best for my children and I am trying to investiigate all avenues. I have already
ruled out the family physician, and expanded my search for GOOD health care.

I am rather new at this, and this forum is really helping me to investigate new ideas.

God Bless
Shauna

[ 17 February 2002, 05:26: Message edited by: shauna ]

Dear Shauna,

About the homeopathic vaccinations, don't waste your time. It's not homeopathy. If there's no disease in your area, and your child hasn't been exposed, then there are no symptoms on which to prescribe. You might as well take any remedy at all..., "I'm taking Baptisia for the Plague." Everyone would think you were mad. They'd say, "Do you have the Plague? Does anyone have the Plague? Is it in your neighborhood?" You'd be taking a remedy on no indications. I've always heard, and I'm sure you have too, that you should never take medicine if you're not sick.

This is just an attempt to "copy" a medical proceedure that's ill-conceived at best and deadly at worst. We have remedies that treat these diseases when they're present; but you're not going to know what remedy to give with no symptoms to prescribe on.

Snoopy

Hi,

Unless a Naturopath has the letters DHANDP following his or her name, the naturopath does not know homeopathy.

That designation means that the Naturopath has actually specialised his or her studies for a period of 4 years (class study and clinic work) in homeopathic medicine.

Many, many naturopaths tell people that they use homeopathy in their practices--they took a two or three week course in it at school, and probably read an article or two and watched a case being taken during their schooling. These naturopaths are not trained in homeopathic medicine and should not be consulted for treatment with homeopathy. Yours, unfortunately, is one of these practitioners.

The concept of "homeopathic vaccination" is NOT HOMEOPATHY, as Snoopy pointed out. The practice of prescribing symptomatically, as your ND described it, is also NOT HOMEOPATHY-at least it is definitely not as simple as she seems to believe it is. This is clearly taught in homeopathy.

Consulting your naturopath for advice on herbal remedies, massage therapies, and nutritional supplements is a good idea: but you have to know that there are some "modalities" employed by some naturopaths which definitely require committed study--homeopathy is one; acupuncture is another. Both of these medical treatments are based on paradigms which are very different from the conventional allopathic paradigm naturopathy functions on--and only trouble can result if homeopathic remedies (and acupuncture treatment) are used just like allopathic medicines.

Caveat Emptor--make sure those accreditations are there! If they are not, find a homeopath who knows her stuff and learned it the hard way.

Divina

P. S.: prescribing 200c remedies to babies is not uncommon, and certainly not unheard of. In cases of acute illness, 200c is sometimes considered a good potency with which to start.
A homeopath must match the remedy potency to the vitality of the patient and the disease--if a 200c is called for, its called for and that is that. I would question any ND who would make such a statement when they have little knowledge of the actual patient, case, or situations involved.

You will use the remedies you gave at the advise of the homeopath again. Don't worry about that...but please by wary of any "homeopathic" combination remedies this naturopath will try to sell you. They are not safe to use and they are often extremely expensive, too!

Divina

[ 17 February 2002, 12:58: Message edited by: Divina ]

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Also - in addition - don't worry about the expiry date on the remedies. They don't expire; expiry dates are required by law hence why they have them on the label.

Divina is in Canada - maybe she can refer you to a qualified Homeopath.

All the best to you - and I think it's great you have avoided vaccinations....

Take care,
Lisa

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If the medicines are in mother tincture form. Then they will may be expire after some considerable time.

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Divina,

Just a tiny little correction: You added an
extra letter (probably a typo) to "DHANP", which stands for
Diplomate of the Homeopathic Academy of Naturopathic Physicians.

Snoopy

Thanks, Snoop.

Divina

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One thing I don't want to let pass is:

"The doctor explained how she would like to get to the root of the problem instead of prescribing
remedies to treat in a symptomatic way, which I know that is what homeopathy is."

This is an allopath's misrepresentation of homoeopathy and what it achieves. If you have a copy of Hahnemann's Organon of Medicine (the seminial text for homoeopaths) please see paragraph 70, notably section 1 which I quote here:

"Everything that the physician can find that is really diseased and that is to be cured in diseases consists only in the state and the ailments of the patient and the alterations of his condition that are perceptible to the senses. In a a word, they consist only in the totality of those symptoms by which the disease demands the suitable medicine for its aid. On the other hand, every inner cause falsely attributed to the disease, every hidden quality or fancied material disease matter is nothing but and idle dream."

This might at first sight appear radical (which it is) and even superficial (which it is not). It is the only logical way to address disease and if correctly applied, brings about a thorough cure where that is possible.

Hi, I've had some trouble with my super slow dial up connection, so thank you everyone for the tips, Snoopy and Divina, the idea of homeopathic vaccinations did sound strange, and you have made it make sense, how useless the injections would be. Made me think.

Lisa, thanks for the encouragement on avoiding vaccinations, it's nice to hear people say they are glad I went without them for my children. I don't hear it that often and most of the time with friends and family, it is unheard of. Do some consider it child abuse or neglect to deprive children of their 'necessary' childhood shots? I am viewing things differently since my first pregnancy and all the reading I did.

About the expiration on tinture form, what length of time is 'considerable time'?
The date on my bottles says 2006, so I should dispose of any unused remedies then? I know that many things last just fine past the dates shown, so maybe I'll just start worrying when 2006 rolls around.

Also, the Organon is a book that I don't have, and have heard mention of it many times. Where can I get one, is it only for doctors or for lay persons as well?

Shauna

[ 19 February 2002, 21:38: Message edited by: shauna ]