Snoopy ,

I noted your comments on Avalon's post about potency and dose and wonder how you feel about this, from The Organon of Medicine sixth ed. by Sammy Hahnemann:

Aphorism 247:

In aphorism 248:

How does this fit in with your answer?

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Simone,

You are absolutely right--you and Sammy H.

Ya know, I just didn't feel like getting into it.
Eizyaga used to prescribe 6C dry pellets 3 times a day and swore he never saw a problem.

But yes, technically, it's true: you should give the remedy in water, succuss before each use as Hahnemann said, but then I'd have to explain about how to do succussions and the water bottle, and I thought, "I've given this person enough to think about at one sitting!" Sometimes, the more information you give, the more your point is lost. If you give people too much to do, they tend to say, Forget it! So I had to weigh that into my decision-making. But, everything you say is true, so thanks for bringing it up.

Snoopy

I am very new to this field, but reading with interest the dosage and frequency topics. Where can I go to get info about preparing the dosages according to the above principals.
Specifically, how concerned must you be about the water quality, the cleanliness of the 'cup', will a small bottle work. If you use a Dolisos 'pill', they don't seem to dissolve in water (I tried one) How do you handle that? Appreciate your guidance.

RDS,

You can start here:

http://www.simillimum.com/Thelittlel...solutions.html

There is a wealth of information at the above site that may be of interest to you. Otherwise, perhaps you might like to contact a pharmacy.

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Dear RDS,

I usually tell people to buy a small spring water bottle, pour half out, drop a pellet in, label the bottle, pour a little Vodka in if you think you're going to be keeping this water potency around for a long time--like more than a week; and, it doesn't matter if the pill doesn't dissolve. This is because the medicine is not inside the pill it's on the outside; the pellets are sugar pellets, and one or 2 drops of a liquid potency is dropped on them and they are rolled around and around and coated, so all the medicine is on the outside. Once it comes in contact with the water, the water's got it! Have a sip, only the next time you take it, succuss ten times before hand; that means, pound the bottle into your opposite palm to raise the potency, as Simone said.

Now, the bottle has this remedy in it "forever" and can never be rinsed clean, as it were, so it can never be used for anything else. Yes, any size bottle will do.

Snoopy

Avalon

You propbably should refrigerate to keep the water fresh - you don't need to thoughfor the remedies effectiveness.

You can succuss on your leg, but you don't need to smack the heck out of your palm - just 10 little "love taps" on the bottom of the bottle. If you want to do it the original way you can pound the bottle on a hard leather bound book.

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Barb, banging a hard leather bound book is suggested for one resounding bang when making up an LM. Funny that you mention this because it makes me realize that I always do that when using the method suggested for the LM (or even another potency but with alcohol)using Everclear but never do it when making a water potency that does not have alcohol! When I make a water potency not only do I not give that one big bang (that one bang doesn't count as a succussion) but I don't succuss at all for the first dose. Start to succuss with the second dose. I hadn't realized that I used two different approaches depending on the use of alcohol. Is this terribly incorrect?

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I read this after posting at the other thread. Very clear and simple instructions, Snoopy, thanks! I can manage that! I will try it with the Pulsatilla. So each time you succuss the bottle the potency rises, right? Is there a "ceiling" on that? Or a time limit on keeping the bottle? Should the bottle be refrigerated?

Also, I read somewhere that you can succuss by a simultaneous motion of shaking the bottle and striking it against your thigh... does that sound reasonable? I should think one's palm would hurt after being smacked with a bottle 10 times.

Avalon

Interesting. I appreciate everyone's guidance.
Since the remedy content is really a coating, is it also safe to assume that once a small bottle has been used to 'house' a remedy that it can no longer be used for another remedy type, but maybe ok for a remedy potency?
And, if I understand this properly... assume I must take Phytolacca 30C twice a day for 3 weeks. I would be best to dissolve 4-5 small pellets in a bottle of water (from a bottler), label it and store in the refrig. Then take a large gulp, of it twice a day, but succuss it between every glup 10X, to raise the potency slightly between dosings. Then when I run out, and must fix another batch, it would be best to retain the number of succussions the previous batch had gone thru, to make a new starting point? Of course the Vodka/Everclear, as a preservative would be included in each.
Is there no worry that the care in preparing and determining dosages could easily be defeated by the storage of the dosage in a refrigerator and plastic bottle?

Dear RDS,

I think I have heard that a potency of 30 C is likely to start producing results after 3 days, and in case any reaction did not appear by that time it means that most likely that it's the wrong remedy.

I have a personal experience of repeating some lower potency remedies for 4-5 weeks, and in the beginning it worked but within 4-5 months I started proving these remedies, which means that I started experiencing a lot of symptoms that these remedies were supposed to cure. At that point I went to another homeopath and received again the same remedy - of course, because the syptoms were there, in 30 for a week - and I started feeling so awful!

Finally I was able to get out of this vicious circle with a (single) dose of another - evidently, a very well selected, remedy in 30 C potency helped me to get rid of these very unpleasant effects and opened the way to real improvement.

I hope that will give you an idea of what one should be careful when using homeopathy.

Best regards,

Helenaz