Hallo Denise

A quick opinion on these works

Allen.s Enzyclopaedia:
Still the most complete reference work, which follows the structure of Hahnemann’s materia medica. Since the publication of this work there has not been a complete Materia Medica published in book form. A bit bulky and I might use it maybe once a week.

There is a concise version: Allen’s handbook, which is only one volume and contains about 70% of the big one. Also in this work: clear separation from proving-symptoms and clinical experience.

Hering’s Guiding symptoms:
Hering combined in those 10 volumes some more prominent symptoms with all his cases, so it is incomplete from the proving point of view.
I could not find much good in it and prescriptions made based on it failed more often.

Farrington was more a theoretical author, never the less his comparative materia medica is a good study materia medica, which brings out the difference in closely related remedies quite well. A similar work is: comparative Materia medica/ R.H.Gross. All those books are available from B.J.publishers.

Hans Weitbrecht
homeopath

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From what I've seen on the BB, many of the cases - not all - go astray when practitioners / contributors start debating styles of prescribing and getting hot under the collar when they strike someone who doesn't agree with them.

For instance we have some who are obviously keynote prescribers
some Kentian,
some Hahnemannian,
some classical,
some Boenninghausen proponents,
and then we have neo-this & neo-that
post-whatever,

(those that may have used complexes have been dispatched or lay low & don't tell that they use them)

Then it could be further broken down into those who repertorize by hand or those who use computer reps,
some seem to be "intuitives" (one of my friends does this- even after 4 years of study & seems quite good at it........hmmm)

AND THEN we have cultural diversity, with some difficulty in understanding linguistic nuances,for instance: where one contributor makes a "quip" or means to make a light-hearted observation/remark & it is misconstrued/mis interpreted and one or more parties take offence.

Then we have the difficulty in interpreting the rubrics from the repertories as most of the provings were done in the century before last.. and the lexicon has dated.

And not to forget all our opinions. Some are more opinionated more that others....it's a fine line between opinion & ego..
I have strong opinions on various things & I know that I will offend some at some stage, but as a teacher I know not to let it worry me. I am still open to hear other people's opinions and try to do so without judgement.

I think that the diversity found on this BB and the tolerance and wisdom offered by so many is what makes it such a great learning tool.

There are many threads (such as Bettina's & Contenta's) that I have followed and learned so much from, without contributing.
Dr Mas has also contributed to my learning, as has Hans by encouraging me to re-read the Organon and other texts when I have been challenged by what has come up on their threads. Divina's posts also offer many insights.
Perhaps we should encourage more to post on the Cured section, but how many have patients that come back to tell you they are better? I have found that many forget to tell you they are better.
(BTW Dr Leela fixed my problem after Xmas - thanks Dr Leela! )

Finally, we have people who have posted their problem for the world to see - brave people

They have chosen to come to this site for information and perhaps a cure using homeopathy.
I can't believe the cost of a homeopathic consultation in the USA Most Australian practitioners I know charge A$40 - A$50 for an hour, making it an affordable choice of healthcare.

That's my 2-bob's worth.

Hi
The responsibility Hans talked about is much more than legal...when you have chosen to prescribe you have chosen to impact the lifelong health of another individual...and unless you are able to follow up, you have no clue what that impact has been...
Denise

May I suggest Ozzie and Ricky move directly to the United States where their services are so badly needed that they can charge whatever they want and get it! I will find offices for you in my town where there has never been a homeopath. A student and I are having the third meeting of a newly formed study group soon, just trying to get homeopathy known in this town, where most people don't even know what those little bottles in the health food stores are for! As for the list, it has been very interesting reading and I am learning from you all. That will benefit the study group. I'm trying to teach things correctly, but at any rate, these interested people may develop into homeopathy students some day. Perhaps Ozzie and Ricky can take over the study group too, when they arrive.

I think it is nice to see the variety in the way things are handled. Some are very cautious to prescribe, which is good, but people have also expressed a great deal of appreciation for those who have jumped right in and prescribed. So there is something for everyone. All the "arguments" have allowed me to weigh and sort my thoughts, adjust them, and learn.

Yes, cultural differences play a part, and also I think some people assume that you are saying things for the same reason that THEY might (I was accused of starting Bettina's 2nd thread so I could have my name on it, whereas I was tired of seeing Bettina's lengthy replies disappearing on the first thread. Well, good that she has her 3rd thread now! )

These are good questions, Chris, and it would be good to organize a way to handle cases- the questionnaires, yes, and discussion between homeopaths over the reason for the remedies that are considered, perhaps some questions asked again, and then it would be nice if there could be some sort of a conclusion reached between homeopaths and one choice presented to the patient rather than several, as many of these people have no idea who to listen to, or how to differentiate between the remedies suggested. :razz: Also, what about a page of information for the patient as to the use of homeopathic remedies, so they don't just leave thinking this remedy would work for the whole neighborhood, or that they can take it any time they catch a cold, etc? Thanks to you all for your thoughts on all the threads.

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Kescah

WOW,

What an idea. Let's become organized on this board.

Let's start something that has never been done in History.

When someone has a problem, they can come to the board and get their case taken.

They would have to read an explanation of homeopathy page first.

Then perhaps, answer some specific questions.

Then type in their case to the best of their ability.

This would be followed by any additional qestions from the cyber homeopath(s) taking the case.
And then the remedy would be "suggested", NEVER of course "prescribed".

Can you imagine when internet cameras become more mainstream (and they are slowly), and then you can actually see the patient live and interact with them and take their case!

Can you imagine how this forum could advance homeopathy if we did this???

What does everyone think???

Am I just drunk ????? Or this a great idea ????

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Hi Kescah
I can imagine that.
I started out in Ireland when the society had 5 members and I am no.: 6. now we have approximately over 200 homeopaths in the country.

hans Weitbrecht
homeopath

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I second your 2 bob's worth and also wish I could get away with charging what they do in USA!!! I may be able to live on what I make from homeopathy rather than resorting to a day or two of supply teaching a week when I can get it!!

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There was a recent discussion on Minutus about internet prescribing. I didn't quite follow it, but there was something about people having made recommendations to someone asking for assistance, and that "someone" turned out to be a "quackbuster" affiliate who had been monitoring the list.

There was a prosecution - I'm sorry at this point I stopped reading - under some US law or another. As I understand it, no money had been exchanged.

Therefore, Hans is quite right in that there is a responsibility regardless of whether or not money has changed hands.

If any Minutus readers have the full details, I'm sure it would be a welcome addition to this thread.

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Any ideas for a system? Maybe we could have something in place for when Bettina's friend posts his case Saturday or Sunday. My thought is that perhaps the patients could be asked to wait while the homeopaths discuss the cases on the thread and reach a conclusion before taking anything. Perhaps the first homeopath to reply could be the one to request that, and then also be the one to weigh and balance everyone's thoughts and organize a final consensus. This is a little more complicated than seeing one homeopath! :razz: But I think this would be good for the patients. And maybe someone could start a post entitled something like The Questionnaire- it could be discussed and redone, and then we could ask jonh to remove all but the final product. It could also include basic things that homeopathic patients should know about. Any other ideas?

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Kescah

Great idea, Debbie! On another forum that I frequent, there is a way to make a thread "sticky" which means that it is always the first thread. That would be a great place for the info/questionaire thread, and would perhaps work with this BB setup as well!

Love this BB,

Lynn