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Old 3rd January 2002, 02:23 AM
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Hi Chris,

Yes I did read the case. David Little's one of the best, there's no doubt about that! Most of us would have stayed with Belladonna, I'm afraid!
But notice, he did go with Bell. as his first choice, only later going to an individual remedy. I think this is what I've been trying to say in various posts, that 80% of the time, the top remedies for a disease will prevail; and hence, should be thought of first. If they fail, go to the repertory and start from scratch. Or, if you're David Little, with decades of experience and acquired knowledge, go with your instincts. By the way, David has great admiration for Robin Murphy, and vice-versa.

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Hi Snoopy,

He used Belladonna as his first choice because he believed it fitted the signs and symptoms of the type of meningitis the child had, not just because it is one of 5 remedies known to cure meningitis.

When Belladonna's action was insufficient he reviewed the way HE HAD EVALUATED THE CASE and used his working knowledge of remedy relationships to arrive at Sulphur. I don't believe it would have just been pure instinct! Nor did he go through every remedy in the differentials hoping to get lucky.

Success in homoeopathy is within all our reach if we're prepared to do the hard yards from the beginning.

When Robin Murphy brought David Little to the United States in the 90's to give a series of lectures on LM prescribing, and had his own case managed by David Little, he stopped prescribing in that mechanistic '3 X day for a month, slow down when you get an aggravation' style. He admitted it was producing accessory symptoms in his patients and slowing down the progress of his cases. The idea of daily doses in ALL cases, because of a misunderstanding of Hahnemann's meaning in the Organon, has been counterproductive to homoeopathy. In no way am I suggesting that low potency prescribing itself, is counterproductive. I use it myself when LM's are unsuitable, but you need to match the person's susceptibility ratio by applying the 'wait and watch' principle from the outset, not long after the horse has already bolted!
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Now that I have discovered it, I would not be without Boenninghausen's Theraputic Pocket Book 1846. Characteristic gradings; remedy relationships; concise and portable.
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Hi Chris,

You wrote:
"He used Belladonna as his first choice because he believed it fitted the signs and symptoms of the type of meningitis the child had, not just because it is one of 5 remedies known to cure meningitis. ...
Nor did he go through every remedy in the differentials hoping to get lucky."

Gee, I hope I didn't give the impression that that is what the differentials are for--pick any remedy in the differential and see if it works.

Why do we have differentials? Why can't we just repertorize the symptoms in a case? Let's say you had a patient with swelling of the ankles and feet. Maybe it's a family member, or friend. You look down and, "Holy Cow! Your feet look like pig's feet! This is not a good sign! I've got to get a remedy for you!" What are you going to do? Look up: Feet, swelling, Ankles, edema? You need to know the state the person is in; what if it's edema from liver failure, or edema from heart failure, or edema from kidney failure? They're different chapters in the repertory, and the remedies, though there's some over-lap, are essentially different. So the symptoms alone are not sufficient, you need a diagnosis. After you have a diagnosis, and you have a look at the remedies in the differential for that diagnosis, you can ask the suitable questions to differentiate among these remedies; if for instance, you find out it's kidney failure, "Are you thirsty?" No. And you notice the right foot is more swollen than the left foot, and he's worse in a warm room, so you give Apis. If you were in the wrong differential, you'd find yourself asking questions to confirm Apocynum or Digitalis or Cactus--they all have swelling of the feet too, but from heart disease (of course, you know this, I'm not trying to insult your intelligence, but others might want to know).

So, what I'm hearing you say is, if you knew that someone had dropsy from kidney disease, you wouldn't bother with the remedies in that rubric. You wouldn't try to see which one matched your patient the best. Instead you'd take the whole case, to see if he were a "Pulsatilla" or a "Sulphur", and then you'd prescribe that remedy as a first choice? I don't think so, I don't really believe that. I think you'd prescribe Apis or Ars. or one of the other remedies in that rubric, because you need a remedy that has an affinity for that state--for the diseased organ.

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I am trying to source Boenninghausen's Theraputic Pocket Book 1846. I am assuming that those that recommended it did not mean Bogers translation. Please correct me if I am wrong.

At http://www.minimum.com/ I found the following.

The Boenninghausen Repertory
Therapeutic Pocketbook Method
By Clemens Maria Franz Baron von BOENNINGHAUSEN, MD (Honorary)
287 pages, harback
Dimensions (in inches): 9.80 x 7.20 x 0.80
This item was in stock when this catalog was last updated on 11/19/01.

#2811, $135.00

Is this the one? Does anyone know any other sources. Any sources out of the UK? I am currently based in Europe. Thanks again all
The Complete by Van Zandvoort will have to wait until I am settled somewhere.
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Dear Jayj
I have Boenninghausen's Therapeutic Pocket Book for Homeopathic Physicians to use at the bedside and in the study of the Materia Media. T.F Allen, & published by B. Jain of India. It was cheap( it says 75rps inside)even here in Aust.
Perhaps check out Jains website for the $US/$Canadian price.
It also has a case similar to David Little's meningitis case quoted by Chris G in the introduction.


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Hi Ozzie,
Thanks. I did check out BJain (online) but they only have the lesser writings by Boenninghausen. I looked under George Dimitriadis (edited by) as in Aarden post. No luck there. The other option is under CM Boger - Boenninghausen’s Characteristic & Repertory. Is this the one everyone is referring to
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hallo to all

Sources of Boenninghausen's Therapeutic pocketbook

1) Therapeutisches Taschenbuch 1846
facsimile-reprint of the Original version in german.
Available from:
Verlag bernd van der Lieth, Hamburg/germany
website:www.liethpub.de

2) Therapeutic Pocketbook 1897, Allen
based on the 1846 version, but greatly changed.
difficult to use because of the print, and unreliable because of all the changes and aditions which are not footnoted.
available from: B.Jain Publishers

3)Australian version: see above.
contains aditions atributed to Boenninghausen
--Rubrictitles were changed, some of them not coinciding with the german original.
---The original detailed Remedy-relationships were replaced by crude ones of a later publication
---Rubrics were arranged under different headings, than in the original.
---The revisor dimitriadis talks of a grading between1-4, whereaes the original grading is 1-5.

4)Therapeutisches Taschenbuch, revidierte Ausgabe 2000, German
similar to the new Australian version.
rubrics under the original headings
few changes in the rubrictitles.
the remedy-relationships were replaced like in the Australian version, and the grading is refered to as beeing 1-4 instead of 1-5 in the original text.

5)Boger-Boenninghausen Repertory 1905, english
boger synthesized all of Boenninghausens Repertories into one volume
the TT inclusions contain already aditions of Dunham.

6)Boger-Boenninghausen Repertory 1937
Published after Bogers death with a lot of changes and aditions atributed to Boger.
it could be found, that a lot of rubrics were added from G.H.G. jahrs repertories.
Also some omissions in the TT-rubrics.
Available: B. Jain publishers

7)Boenninghausen: repertorium der homeopathischen Arzneimittel, R.F.kastner 1998, German
Repertory which includes in its original text the Therpeutic Pocketbook, the repertory of the antipsoric remedies and the repertory of the non-psoric remedies.
Contains all remedy-relationships.
sound throughout, but very expensive.
Available: haug-Verlag

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Lou, where did you get your TT 1846????

I know we had this discussion before and Hans was kind enough to try to explain all the editions to me.

I have Boenninghausen's Characteristics and Repertory, by Bjain - but there is NO date inside grrrrrrrr... and in looking at the info Hans posted again, above...I thought = oh, go have a look and be sure about which edition you have, Lisa...well, I dunnnnnnoooooooo .

Sigh...

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Thank you Lisa, I would love to hear from Louise as well. If anyone else is interested in following up on this, another thread on Boennninghausen can be found at [url=http://www.homeopathyhome.com/cgi-bin/bb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=004580&p=]http://www.homeopathyhome.com/cgi-bin/bb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=004580&p=[/UR L]

I've got go back and reread it. This is all quite mind boggling - same author/title but different content? I'll have to make notes

And thank you so much Hans for all the info on the different editions. Much appreciated and now i'm very confused and wishing I could read German. So much to learn!!!!

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